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oniyide on 24 September 2011
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RolStoppable said:
oniyide said:

these comments were made in what 2004-05?? the sixth gen was pretty much over, MS pulled Xbox because they were gearing up for 360, lets not pretend its for any other reason. Sony, I would imagine did the same thing, and when the PS2 was still around in force they kept having online games. Just go on Wikipedia and their is a massive list on online enabled games for PS2, the last being smackdownvsraw 07, a year after PS3 debuted, so your wrong enthusiam did not drop.  Ninty did nothing, of course not, GC was getting crushed as soon as it hit the market, what i find interesting was that it was in 2nd for a while but then Xbox over took it, why was that? It was not the price, it was not the games, they had alot of the same games, having online must have played a role. Ninty didnt add online because they knew it would make no difference, the competition already had it and could do it better, so why try.

Saying they were only talking about 6 gen at the end of six gen makes no sense, that would mean IWATA was playing captain hindsight. He said people would lose interest, for what the next year until 7th gen started?? That makes no sense, he was wrong. Yes Wii did it without the crappy online, but the best selling HD games have some online component and most of the games being made have online component, so did enthusiam die?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_2_network_games thats a link for the PS2 games for the hell of it

Of course it doesn't make sense to you, because you continually ignore that the quote originated in spring 2004. That wasn't close to the end of the sixth gen, but in the middle of it. What Iwata was asked is why doesn't Nintendo make online games for the Gamecube and then he gave his answer and explained his reasoning. Online gaming was supposed to become a big thing in the latter half of the sixth generation, but Iwata disagreed because from his point of view the market wasn't ready yet.

Since you've posted the list of online enabled PS2 games, you might take a look at it. The big online offensive happened in 2003/04 with games like Everquest, Final Fantasy XI and Resident Evil: Outbreak being released. These are all games that were built around online gaming, mostly everything else had only negligible online multiplayer that had no significant influence on the games' sales. You didn't see any online centered titles from 2005 onwards. Even Sony's flagship game Gran Turismo 4 was originally planned to have online multiplayer, but Sony scrapped it, because it wasn't worth the additional development time. This combined with the design of the PS2 Slim (no HDD) should be pretty telling how enthusiased game companies were about online gaming towards the end of the sixth generation.

Im not ignoring that statement, i agree with it, you are ignoring the statement he made about devs losing interest in making online games, which looking from the launch of 360 and onward(2005-current) is simply not true.  Now your probably gonna say that he was only talking about GC and short term, but I think that is crap, considering how piss poor the effort of the Wii online was, Im sure that he never expected the online to get as big as it has on consoles. Actions speak louder than words. Oh sure Wii was successful regardless, but that doesnt take away the success of XBl and PSn too a lesser degree