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padib said:
sapphi_snake said:

Is the article somehow suggesting that he was responsible for the pre-death bullying? Because I did not get that at all. The girl herself is only mentioned at the beginning of the article, and then they go on about this guy's actions regarding the girl's family, and similar offences he commited at other people's memorial sites. Those quotes refer to the case at hand (harassing the girls' parents), so the 'true bully' in this case is the accused. He is the main source of bullying in this case.

He is not blamed for the girl commiting suicide. Actually, the girl commiting suicide has nothing to do with the case at hand.

If you wanna go off topic with the punishing of those girls, you're free to do that. But don't trey to merge your off topic issue with the main topic. The judge who was trying this case (the harassment of the girls' parents by the accused), had no logical reason to care what happened to the girl, that she was bullied etc., because it had nothing to do with the case he was trying. The media was reporting mainly about this guy, because he was the main party involved in the case. They did another full article regarding Natasha (things like this tend to make the news), where they talked about how she was bullied by those girls, but since no one knows what was in Natasha's head, no one knows what was the main factor that drove her to commit suicide. No one also knows if the bullying she experienced was at the same level at this guy was doing, thus it's unknown if the girl clique could even be prosecuted.

A bully was prosecuted. Prosecuting such individuals is hard, because proof for conviction is hard to come by, and victims often don't speak up. Even in non-criminal cases, schools often don't have efficient rules regarding the punishment of bullies.

I see. Though both are two different cases of bullying, at least some bully was prosecuted and it hopefully provides a sense that bullying people no matter where or when, of a harrassing nature, is not okay.
The only issue I have is that, in the end, it's the ugly anti-social fat man that gets the full blame. Life is unjust, but I also get the sense that people like to blame the monster as much as possible, rather than the actual culprit, whether he/she/they are impossible to prove guilty or not.

Yes, that's true. I myself hate bulying, and am disgusted that more isn't done about it. Sadly there are several factors at work: no accountability if the bullies are minors (both legally, at schools, and regarding how parents treat the situation), and sometimes bullying is encouraged by the school's culture (for example how jocks are allowed to bully kids in American schools).

I guess it is sad that the anti-social 'weirdo' got made an example, when people like him may not even represent the typical bully. But as I said, a complaint was actually filed against him, and there was enough proof to prosecute him, these elements being missing in most cases of bullying.



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