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CGI-Quality said:
selnor said:

As for DF, they at no time claimed KZ3 was better graphically. Where people are getting that from is beyond me.
As already pointed out in this thread DF actually claim that Crysis 2 is using effects unseen elsewhere on consoles which obviously includes KZ3. It's doing things technically no other console game before it is/was doing. You can argue that KZ3 performs at a better frequent FPS or has a higher res. But DF do mention Crysis 2's technical accomplishments were much higher than just aiming at 720p. They make it clear it has much larger environments and better effects.

This said thats why DF conclude that Crysis 2 is at the cutting edge of console visuals. Thats there words.

However you view any of the comments around the web is up to you. What I think is niether gonna change someones mind or make me right or you right.

What is a certain is the fact that there is a discussion goes to show Crysis 2 certainly has the attention of being top graphics currently.

Interestingly devs view Crysis 2 as the current cream of the crop.

4A has said they would like to beat Crysis 2 on consoles in the graphics department.

I could really tackle this and correct some errors, but this argument was really in trouble from the minute the topic was derailed so I'll move on to my next piece.

You still have not answered my earlier question: I thought graphics were "null and void" and "you didn't care anymore"? Why now does all that go out the window?

The whole point of my post above has been missed if you think it can be tackled. 

That is my point. Everyone determines words differently, normally to apease there own arguements. Still everyone else can try and make opinion fact. The fact of the matter is noone really knows anything except the devs that make these top games. DF and the like do what many in the industry consider the most basic of tests. Tests that dont determine by any means just how much hardware is being pushed. They themselves admit this in the websites footnote. 

So its ironic to me anyway that we use their tests to determine graphical or technical prowess.

On the subject of graphics being null and void. I never actually said that. 

What I said was everything basically looks the same to me now at the top except BF3 on PC. Then like 40 mins later I saw this BF3 360 gameplay and was pretty blown away. For me it is that next level of detail and animation and lighting that made me sit up. 

And well, because as the thread shows the users of VGC demand this of me. 

;))))))