Men wear female clothing now? and we are not talking about Drag!

[Joelcool7]

MrBubbles said:

Joelcool7 said:

MrBubbles said:

just thought id point this out...almost no one(if any at all), who has read your posts, really believes you have gay friends.  

Your right, because nobody can get their heads around the fact that a Christian can be friends with a homosexual.

thats not the case at all joel.   there are even christian homosexuals and people dont have problems understanding that either.    the thing here is...  your stories that involve homosexuality or homosexuals cant generally be said to be ridiculous and absurd.  they are not believable in the least. 

Not that I really care if you believe me or not. But at least you don't resort to calling me a homophobic and attacking my beliefs so good on you Mr.Bubbles.

Honestly I have a lot of friends and situations that are very hard to believe, most of which I have not even mentioned here online. I was told I should write a biography and tell my stories, since I am a writer a lot of my friends think people would be interested in some of the fucked up things that have happened in my life or with my friendships.

However I don't think biographies are that great, I would rather create something fiction and have a few novels (Unpublished).

But honestly no I do have a lot of stories that are true, but not all of them are really believable. I know they are true and I will speak of them as true because that's what they are. If you don't believe them then don't believe them, I notice you don't call me a liar like many other users do. I appreciate that, just because your skeptical and don't believe you don't try to attack me on the subject rather you address it maturely.

Also yes I am aware their are Christian homosexuals. Both of my main homosexual friends are Christians, its just a lot of people here on VGChartz do not understand how that is possible. Like a stupid thread that said all Christian's hate homosexuals just because its in the Bible that homosexuality is a sin. Of course its crap like that , which forms my opinions on how Christians are viewed.

It doesn't help that no matter how much I say I am not homophobic, no matter my actions I am stereotyped based on a few political and religious views.

Not everyone who is against gay marriage hates gay people, not everyone who doesn't like how the gay movement treats church's and straights hates gay people.

Its like if your democrat, do all democrats hate Republican's? They shouldn't because despite having some big differences they are all human beings and if they got to know each other for who they were they would probably find a lot in common.

My views on gay people is they are no different then you or I, they are human beings who deserve equality and respect. My political opinions on how they get that equality and respect may differ, but fundamentally I do not have any hatred or dislike or any form of anger or such towards anyone who is gay based on their sexual orientation.

So yes it is very hurtful and annoying to constantly get called a homophobic. I understand Seece and other gay members here obviously are going to believe differently then my political standpoints, I haven't met any Christian homosexuals on VGChartz so for the most part I see differently on that subject as well.

But to demonize someone based on a little difference in opinion is just hurtful. When did I ever intentionally say anything hurtful to a gay user? When have I ever intentionally insulted a gay user? (No not this thread anyone reading it can see I was not trying to attack gays) Even Seece said it was a veiled attack which just shows that even he didn't see it as direct and I can say honest to God I never intended it to be an attack. In fact Seece says I am uneducated and don't know enough about being gay, well if that is the case then how can he expect me to understand? I am trying my hardest and do with my friends as much as possible. I have never tried to offend anyone who is gay, and I do my best to try and understand it. I am observing not experiencing.

I apologized to Seece for not knowing he was gay, but honestly I'm really sick of all the bull shit. Just because you don't believe me doesn't mean you have the right to go around saying stuff about me which is based on nothing concrete. (Which to my knowledge Mr.Bubbles you have not done)

Its sorta stupid that this thread got derailed into yet another debate as to whether I am homophobic or attacking gay people. It happens far to often anytime I mention gays in any way no matter what I say I always get attacked as homophobic. I even created a thread about how gays should be treated equally and somehow it reverted back into yet another thread with me being called a homophobe.

Sorry for another wall of text!