Seece said:
Joelcool7 said:
Seece said:
I'll respond however the fuck I like thanks. There are probably just as many overweight straight religious men that wear their wives underwear when they go out as there are gay guys interested in this shit, based on ... oh yeah, no evidence at all, like yours.
Your entire post was meant as a thinly veiled insult to gays, but news flash, majority of gay guys arent flamboyant or camp or into that. It just shows how very very little you know about gays, but then ... this isn't surprising.
And please don't harp on about the fact you have gay friends, they're obviously self loathers if they're friends with you.
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Man you are acting vein. Homosexuality has to do with this subject because that is probably going to be where the largest male market is for this clothing. I have re-read all my statements and can't see how in any way I insulted any homosexuals in any way. In fact I said gay men tend to care more about there outward appearance then straight males so clothes like this will probably appeal to them first. Secondly gay males while they don't all like feminine clothes are the largest market out of males for those clothes. Of course metro sexuals will likely also be a market.
I don't see how in any way I was being offensive unless you are offended by fashion sense and think males who wear feminine clothing are somehow less human then you?
As for my evidence, yah I've been at the gay clubs in Vancouver and I've been in boy town Phuket (Thailand) have you? When was the last time you were in a gay club? I was at one a few months ago May to be exact. Then you want to insult my homosexual friends, how dare you take pot shots at them I don't give a shit who you think you are you have no right to go around insulting them. I may have opinions on some gay issues but I don't go around verbally assaulting homosexuals or attacking them on a personal level.Self loathers, geez that's a low blow. Again I am not a freaking homophobic so stop your self righteous bull shit!
BS. 'I may have my opinion on some gay issues' you sure have, thus making any of your gay friends self loathers, they would tolerate you at best. That's like a racist having black friends.
In fact I probably have a greater knowledge of homosexuals then you do. I actually have gay friends have been in gay clubs and have been in other countries homosexual districts. Infact mister United Kingdom which gay communities have you been in? Have you been to San Fran (I have) have you been to Boy town Phuket (I have) have you been to the gay clubs in these cities and Vancouver (I have). Whats the biggest gay community in the UK anyways? I mean outside of the gay pride parade in London is there others in the rest of the country? Have you actually been to a pride parade? How many gay friends do you have? How many did you grow up with? Did people ever think you were gay? What kind of knowledge of homosexuality do you have outside of what you see in movies?
You're religious, homophobic, I'm a gay guy and you have no clue as to the places I've been, do me a favour, you don't know anything about homosexuality other than, like I said early, your preconcieved homophobic notions.
You see I don't talk about shit I don't have personal experiences to back up. I probably have more experience dealing with homosexuals, being friends with homosexuals and dealing with political issues regarding the homosexual movement then you do in three life times. Of course homosexual users on here of course understand homosexual issues better then I do. But you aren't gay and unless you are I out rank you on experience.
Yes I am, and again, you have no clue on where and what I have done in my life.
In fact while I'm not gay I have no bias as someone who is gay. So one gay or even ten gays saying they wouldn't want to wear any female style clothing isn't going to cloud my judgement because I've seen Boy Town and the gay clubs and know that make up and women style clothing does get worn, maybe not by the majority but it definitely does. A much larger market for that stuff then in the straight market. Which is what my whole post was about!
As for my post being a low blow, how the hell was it a low blow? It wasn't in any way an attack on homosexuals, it was a comment based on the marketing capabilities of the companies and their strongest market. I was talking about the topic and any issue regarding homosexuality was not in my mind. I was refering strictly to the marketing capabilities of the product.
It was a low blow and you know it. This ISN'T most likely to catch on with the gay community. There are as many straight men that try on their wives clothes than guys that would dare put this on. Of all the hundreds, nay thousands of gay guys I've met, spoken too, such a small significant portion would even dream of wearing this crap, popular or not.
I stopped reading here, I've heard from others here not to entertain your silly posts.
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If you think I'm gonna read all of that you got another thing coming. Just a tip, no need for the wall o text, doesn't make you any more right.
Have fun with your homophobic attacks in the future 
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Alright so your homosexual. I should probably have known that but I don't talk to you enough. So yes you do have more experience then I do I guess I was wrong. Its just so many a-holes want to talk crap about homosexuals and myself who actually do not have a clue of what they are talking about.I am very sorry for the misunderstanding, I did not mean to offend you in any way. I'm just sick of all the idiots talking trash who have no gay friends or ever been to a gay club. Of course I am not going to completely understand homosexuality as I am not gay myself. But I try to do my best to do so.
I'll re-iterate , No it was not a veiled attack on homosexuals. It was a logical post that was based around what I have seen and what the market would be.
Also why the hell do you think I'm a homophobic? Give me a good reason? Have I ever actually called a homosexual anything? Have I ever said I am afraid of homosexuals? Have I ever stated I hate homosexuals?
Your basis for calling me a homophobic is solely based on my religious beliefs and my political stance against gay marriage and the oppression of the gay rights movement. However I do not see these as reasons to dislike another human being, as I said I have many friends who believe radically different then I do and honestly I don't let those beliefs get in the way of friendship. I have friends who are gay, Liberal, socialist, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist , agnostic. If I were to list all the friends that I have fundamental disagreements with I'd have to say their isn't a single friend I would have left. Well actually I'd have one but she's not even one of my closer friends.Infact I disagree with my pastor on issues I disagree with my best friends on issues.
My Muslim friend thinks that all Christian's should be forced to convert at gun point. Yet you know what we get along I just try to avoid the subject. I have a much harder time seeing how I am friends with him compared to a homosexual that doesn't think I should convert at gun point.
You say I don't know you, obviously I don't. You may know a little about my religious and political views however judging by your responses about me being homophobic you either don't know much about me. Or you hold a prejudiced bias against Christian's and Conservatives.
As for the guy who told you to stop reading and replying to my silly posts. Considering your a writer I am guessing that was Runa and I also know some other staff and members here do disagree with me. But listening to a writer who the majority of people posting in his thread proved he was out of line and not being professional is really stupid.
Is this short enough for you? I'll try shortening my responses in the future so that you can actually read them. I'm sorry if the wall of text seemed over whelming!