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cAPSLOCK said:
thismeintiel said:

To the Tim Wise vid linked, all I have to say is UGH! Tired of hearing BS like that so many times. We need to stop focusing so much on race in EVERY situation and race won't be an issue. Even Morgan Freeman agrees with that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtYS-P3s


So we have one famous guy saying we all should just shut up and not talk about it, and on the other side we have a well-respected scholar citing studies that demonstrate serious problems in our country.  Obviously we should listen to the rich and very, very recognizable guy (as is Bill Cosby) talking from his gut in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary by people who are not recognizable.  Among the people on the other side are people like Harvard Professor Henry Louis Gates (not so famous or recognizable) saying "uh, yeah, this is a big problem".  Dude gets arrested and harrassed in his own home. 

"Don't talk about it and maybe it'll go away" was a pretty common position by white people during the civil rights era, too. 

But I know it's a topic that makes a lot of people uncomfortable to acknowledge, so I'm not going to jump on your case.  It's a topic worth learning about, Tim Wise is a nice intro but you can go looking for other sources.   I actually came into the topic studying philosophy and essentialist questions by accident, but Tim Wise is a hell of a lot more accessable than drudging through 100s of pages of philosophy text. 

Learning about all of this stuff honestly felt like something of an assault as a white kid originally from Kansas, and it does feel like it at first, but if you're interesed in studying politics and moral questions in any serious way, the first thing you have to do is confront the hard shit, not avoid it.  

I'm out for the night, later all.

Ah yes, we have a scholar saying that racism is as much a problem as ever, so that must make it true.  Please.  The truth is those people who go out talking about racist America (most of them white) wouldn't have a job or as much political power if people (especially minorities) were allowed to see that racism is no longer a problem like it used to be.  Sure you're always going to have a very small minority that are truly racist, but you can't just force people be accepting or nice.  As long as they aren't going around lynching or attacking people, which we have laws agaisnt if they do, then they can live in their own little world.  You'll also notice how Timmy says he can go on campuses because he fits "the mold", though I'm sure colleges have had plenty of minority speakers, he doesn't mind taking all that money that "should" have gone to a minority for his visits.

Of course, I expect to see the race card played out in full force come Election 2012.