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twesterm on 13 September 2011
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Runa216 said:
twesterm said:

Yeah, I really don't want to read 10 pages of nonsense.

I assume you realize that those people making wars over religion are irrational right?  Maybe 500 years ago when people weren't quite as enlightened but today it's hard to use those people as the gold standard today.

Things like evolution can be proven but proving it one way or the other doesn't prove or disprove that God exists.  If evolution happened God can still exist.

I don't really know where your quote comes from but it's simply wrong.  Whoever made it like you obviously doesn't understand what faith is.  I really don't know how better to explain that.  Faith can not and does not need to be proven.


I don't want to be a dick, but if you're not gonna read the thread or atleast the original post to see what the thread is about, perhaps it's best you not post in it unless you're doing moderator-y things?  I mean, I know you're the boss around these parts, but I've made my case pretty clear throughout.   

If religious people insist on pushing their faith on me and on others, through violent or nonviolent means, they should be subject to the same burden of proof that science has.  If they keep it to themselves, they have every right to believe what they want, but the second they expect to control people, stick their noses in science, or claim to have all the answers to life and love, then they should offer evidence to back those claims.  

Two seperate things here, and I've been steadily insisting people keep the evolution shit to other threads for the exact same reason. 

I read the OP (and even posted early on) and the update.  I only mentioned evolution because someone else quoted me and mentioned it, I just didn't want to make another post.

As for your pushing religion statement, that's not exactly right.  Someone can try to push their religion on you and it does not have to be based on fact, again, because it is faith.  It's up to you to accept that faith or not.  As for pushing through force, that's another thread topic completely different from this one.  Here, you're asking something that cannot be proven to be proven.  Just because some people are pricks doesn't mean religion has to be proven, it should just mean they should stop being pricks.  It has nothing to do with the absurd idea of proving if God exists.