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Michael-5 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Michael-5 said:
 

Multiplayer matches in Conker? yes the original had all kinds of multiplayer matches and the shooting was far better then any shooter wev've talked about so far. Is the single player still the same? a few changes here and there thats about all but that rock'd, but you have to deliver on the whol package.

Mass Effect 1 was published by Microsoft. Just prior to Mass Effects release Electronic Arts purchased Bioware, and EA published ME2. Since MS has some rights over Mass Effect 1, Bioware was not allowed to port ME1 to PS2. My point with Mass Effect was that third party companies can be bought out, or decide to make their game multiplatform alltogether. Although 1st party companies can be bought out too (take Bizarre Creations), but it's less common. ok

Gears of War, although 3rd party, I don't consider to be any different then Resistance for PS3. Insomniac is not a first party Sony company, they just agreed to develop Resistance for Sony. The only difference is Resistance is a Sony IP, where Gears is Epic, but I really don't see a Gears of War coming out on PS3. I put Gears of War in the same boat as 1st party exclusives, MS won't let their second best selling franchise go multiplatform. I guess this is probably more like MGS then Gears, but I still count it as a solid exclusive. not PS3 but PS4? i never count anything out and don't expect a GEARS 4 on current gen consoles which i'm sure you don't lol.

Actually, there are just as many JRPG's this gen as any prior gen, they are just more spread out. X-Box only had a FFXI port come to it, and Gamecube had 2 JRPG's (off the top of my head, Paper Mario and Tales of Symphonia). Last gen PS2 had all the JRPG's. Now this gen Wii is getting XenoBlade, Last Story, and Dragon Quest X, 360 got Lost Odyssey, Tales of Vesperia, and Infinite Undiscovery, and PS3 got Valkyria Chronicles and Demon Souls. I don't think there are particularly any less JRPG's this gen then in others. i see

I know I'm interested in a handful of PS3 exclusives, I'll admit that, but before Tales of Xillia, there wasn't anything I could live without. Heavy Rain and Valkyria Chronicles are probably the only must have PS3 titles for me. There are more must have titles on the Wii for me then PS3. 

understandable

For 360, except for Fable, all the big hyped exclusives are my types of games. Basically for me Gears, Halo, Forza, Lost Odyssey, Tales of Vesperia (so far), and Mass Effect are much bigger games then any PS3 exclusive, and then Alan Wake, Too Human, Infinite Undiscovery, and Dance Central are about as interesting as Uncharted, GT, Resistance, etc. lol ok your not giving much to argueabout

Anyway, both systems are good, our debate has really changed. I will likely get a PS4 over a next-box simply because I'm tired of unreliable US products. 90% of the games are multiplatform anyway, I can hold out a bit for the next Forza and Halo. i agree

Your view on MS is my view on Sony for software. Last gen Sony got all the third party exclusives and really made me want a PS2. Gran Turismo was better (for the time), Twisted Metal was good, and GTA was a platform exclusive! This gen Sony has lost all their third party exclusives, and yes they have tried to make a few first party ones, but feel MS did a better job securing exclusives (1st and 3rd party). i can see that being an influence.

As for your last comment, I'm on the same boat. Nintendo rarely makes a new IP, NOA won't ever localize any great Japanese games, and a lot of their old IP's remain unaltered. I think for Nintendo home consoles I will likely skip generations, so I won't get a Wii U, but I'll get whats next. I need an updated Mario Kart at least once a decade, and some of Nintendos games are just phenominal (Fire Emblem, Donkey Kong, Metroid Prime, Smash Bros, etc). agreed

here a link to the old conker multiplayer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf0StaMQUiM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuunZgJ4_NM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5YzKOQ9viA&feature=related

there maybe a few more

See I got Conker after I bought my 360, so online is dead anyway. As long as the core game is the same, I'm happy. the core game was the multiplayer. it made the game. when the story was done it was done.

Still MS has butchered Rare. Look what Rare makes on 360 now, Kinect Sports, Avatars, Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts? Damn MS. I mean how hard would it be to make a proper Killer Instinct game? People always argue MS has relativly few 1st party titles, and Rare has a bounty of great IP's. I mean a proper Banjo Kazooie would be nice too, 360 needs an exclusive platformer.  dito

Also I agree with you Gears of War 4 might come out on PS4. I hope it does, so I can still continue to play the franchise. I told you Sony is a much better company then MS, and third party exclusives are becoming so rare nowdays. Mass Effect is already multiplatform, so if next gen is like this one I'll just get a nextbox after a slim redesign and many price cuts. dito

As for 360, I guess I'm just defending my taste. Most people here love the PS3, and it's exclusives, so you guys really don't have to defend yourselves. I always feel on this website, I have to explain why I prefer 360 over PS3 for software. People are shocked, but for the 3 genres that dominate my gaming, 360 is better. Overall I think PS3 is better, I'm just not big on Action Adventure or Platformer titles like God of War, LBP, and Ratchet. Maybe it's because I look to Nintendo for those types of games. If I were a fan of PS3 platformers, I might share the view of more people here. How we lead to this, I dunno. Guess we didn't want to debate to die. well every console fits a sertant taste, and as for debating we just ran low on things to debate about lol. see although this seems to be a Sony dominated site, it seems now adays everyone pitches in for all consoles. back in the early days you wouldn't dream of seeing a Sony fan post anything positive about 360, but its done everyday here now. maybe the fall season will end the since of normalcy we have around here now but as things stand to day it seems we all work to improve the site and educate newcomers letting them know that VGC isn't the place for hardcore fanboys so get that straight or move on.

i'm really not like any other sony fan on the site. i was a N64 owner cause it had the games i liked. i was a PS2 owner cause my brother onwed the Xbox. now i'm a PS3 owner for 2 reasons. 1 my brother and i said we would stick to the brands we own so i stuck with Sony and he's disapointed with the xbox 360  so he's getting a PS3. the other reason is i'm very demanding when it comes to supporting any platform and for me Sony does it better with more.

alot of people say xbox live is better but me and my more core 360 owners really see no difference other then the way there set up. i've always had the same problems and successes with both never a difference other then 1 you pay and the other you don't don't have to. PS+ i by choice. i guess you can say its more of a charity lol but it has great deal's.

speculation time:

the real question is wht will MS do next gen when it starts all over again and everyone is on even footing with no edge and Sony and Ninty exlcusives push PS4 and Wiiu ahead of them just by a small margin and Halo has already been released . Epic says the cost is to great and GEARS goes multiplayform, new ip's are one sided in sonys favor cattering to everyone(not likely) and the war is between Ninty and Sony because noone can get anything timed exclusive and bundles for 3rd party on consoles and games show there faces day and date and wht most call money hatting nolonger works.

will they still say the best multiplatform experiance is on nextbox or start building ip from internal studios cause i'm sure next gen saying were the best console for multiplatform games won't work. end speculation!

i'm sure some 3rd party bundles will happen but 3rd party won't want to miss out on the potential of a sells boost just to catter to one console.

Don't worry, I'll argue with you somewhere else. We just need a good topic to debate. We're dry here. i'd say so except the conkur thing

BTW Resistance 3 is looking awesome. They brought back a proper co-op mode. can't wait to get on it.