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Michael-5 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Michael-5 said:
 

I'm so confused by the on screen buttons point now. Features (even if just in game) are always welcome. dito. we won't know wht the full potential for those buttons are untl the console comes out and we learn more about them. i'll be waiting with you lol.

Hey, MS has more then 2 franchises. Halo, Forza, Fable, Alan Wake, and Rare. Besides MS tends to publish a lot of 3rd party games exclusivly (Gears, Lost Odyssey, Too Human, Star Ocean, etc). If you ask me, the number of quality exclusive games is superrior on the 360 then the PS3. Gears, Halo, and Forza alone trump every PS3 game IMO. I just hate MS as a company, and paying for online. well i'm glade you agree that GEARS and Alan Wake are the best games on the system(lol i didn't put words in your mouth i just took some out/i hope you don't mind lol). Forza 4 will be my first forza so i'll reserve comment. Rare is dead to me, and they screw'd up conker live a reloaded. we'll never see another conker again unless another pub. buys it off MS. i will never forgive rare for that. rare can eat a dick(srry to much boondocks)

i also don't count 3rd party games the console maker doesn't own out right. so heavy rain, gears lost odyssey, too human(which suck's imo, according to wikipedia Alan wake, and star ocean. yea even Sony fans here say i'm harsh, but thats only becuase i expect more from console makers and pub's in general.

i hate halo

your opinion is respescted but imo MS has nothing to hold my interest. they give you wht someone else own's and i need reasurance that the ip i buy the console for stay exclusive. 

I don't think I can wait as long as you on a next gen console. PS3 Slim came out in 2009, while the first X-Box came in 2005. That's a 4 year wait into the 7th gen. I can maybe wait 2 years, just want 1 price cut, and a second gen console (second gen systems have different hard drive sizes). I'll get my Nextbox when they make a redesign and drop the price heavily, I really like MS's exclusives. once again respected but most of the exlcisves you named arn't guaranteed to stay exclusive which is my problem with 3rd party dev ip. theres still the rumur'd PS3 slim2. it can only get smaller right!

PS3 and 360 both will hit 75 million midway into 2013. I can't picture them selling under 10 million next year, and I don't see it dropping below 7 million in 2013. Add 5-6 million this holiday season and yea, 2 years, but after that sales will crawl. agreed

For continued support, MS did keep X-Box live up for X-Box users until 2009. I think, like Sony, they will continue creating consoles until people stop developing software. So as long as PS3's keep getting Madden, so will 360's. Sony will just make a game or two post lifetime for the PS3, where MS probably won't. agreed. MS will keep live up for 360 for 3 yrs after the launch of xbox 850 and then kill it. i think PS3 will become an indie developers paradise after PS4 launches.

For graphics, we don't need them, I agree. A lot of my favorite games are not graphically powerful. However better graphics are appreciated. 2 generations from now (20 years considering the long lifespan nowdays), games will look soo different then they do now. There will not be any noticable polygons, or clumps of hair, or false lighting. All effects will be done in real time and not pre-rendered, and just damn. Next gen all I wish is that anime type games (DBZ, Tales of Vesperia, etc) be indistinguishable from anime. I want to play a cartoon, and I think that is possible. Tales of Vesperia didn't come too far from that and DBZ looks a lot like the cartoon. dito.

Our discussion has changed rapidly. I'm in 100% agreement about graphics. A lot of people I know are such graphics w**res nowdays. Not all great games have ridiculous graphics. This is why I'm going back and working on a bunch of great SNES/PS1 era JRPG's. They were the best back then, and the graphics suck. lol have fun. i wish i could do the same but i don't have those games yet i'm sure there on wii virtual console.



I own Conkers: Live and Reloaded, but I have yet to play it. What's wrong with it? From what I've seen it's just Conker's Bad Fur Day with upgraded graphics. its missing 99.% of the other multiplayer matches

Rare used to be a better company. Apparently most of the employees left Rare after MS bought them out and joined Crytek. No wonder Crytek is making some pretty damn good games nowdays. lol true. the thing is MS executives didn't want the now former owers input so they left and form'd a new company.

 Forza is like GT. There are differences, but regardless to what other people say, they are both excellen sims. You probably won't notice a difference unless you put in over 50 hours each. The only real difference, and the reason why I prefer Forza is because Forza is designed more like a game. Cars are unlocked much much more easily in GT5. You can almost play every single cup using a different car. You can also rewind races, which is damn well appreciated when you start working on endurance races. GT encourages you to get 1 good car from each region, and with various layouts (AWD, Turbo, etc) and then tune them to win races. I prefer to drive multiple different cars then a select few, and it doesn't take long to drive dream cars in Forza. In fact, the very first race of Forza 3 is in an Audi R8 V10, and that race is done so they can reccomend a difficulty for you. yes they are but hell i've never really play'd either. 

Too Human is a love it or hate it game. I know people who love it, I know others who hate it, and I know almost no one in between. IMO it's a great game, but unpolished (feels like some cinematic sequences, and characters are missing all together). ok

Also I agree with you on third party games. Look what happened to Mass Effect. However I still consider Gears of War as an exception because MS heavily funds the development of that game. they still fund ME?

However 3rd party is important. I'm big about JRPG's, and Sony/Nintendo haven't developed a good JRPG in 15 years or so (Paper Mario was the last good Nintendo JRPG, and The Legend of Dragoon for PS1 for Sony). So which systems get what JRPG's makes a big difference to me. I'm thoroughly dissapointed at how few JRPG exclusives PS3 is getting, and JRPG's alone I feel are reason enough to get a core 360. If next gen is like this one, like I said, I will get an MS system, but the arcade one. Mostly for these third party games and a handful of MS branded ones. i see. the lack of JRPG's this gen is unexceptable.

Yes I know, most of MS's exclusives have been timed in the past. I did say I would get a MS system next gen as a secondary system. I agree with you about third party games, you can't say you like Microsoft because of the third party games, but those third party games still can be reason enough to own a console. dito

Personally 360 exclusives are more catered to me. I like Sci-Fi Shooters, Racing Games and JRPG's. 360 has more, and better JRPG's then PS3 (at least ones I like, I'm not a big fan of Demon Souls). I prefer Forza over GT, and overall most will agree that Halo & Gears is better then Resistance & Killzone. well thats sells in my eyes and the winners in preference by sells is clear.

I know most people here are big PS3 fans, but except for Uncharted, GT, Killzone, Heavy Rain, and Valkyria Chonicles, there isn't too much on PS3 that interests me. Tales of Xillia is the first game that is making me want to buy a PS3 again. thats still alot of interest in comparison to just my 3 games for 360!

It's all a matter of preference. I prefer 360 just because it has the type of games I like, but most people here are different. I mean I can easily live without Uncharted or GT, but not without Gears or Forza. hey i can live without either if there not dedicated franchises which the 4 you mention'd are, but i still need more. get me to want your product before i buy and Sony has done it to gens straight while MS has my respect for wht they've done this gen. the original xbox is better IMO.

In all honestly, all 3 systems have their own great titles. Each system has at least 1 game you really don't want to miss. That's why I will eventually get all the systems (PS4 after a redesign, NextBox when prices crash, and a BC 9th Gen Nintendo). i think i'll stay way from Ninty next gen. the usual suspects just don't interest me anymore.