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Darth Tigris said:
thismeintiel said:
Shinobi-san said:

I wasnt being serious when i said Sony is doomed :/ come on look at worldwide sales!

Anyways, u dont need to remind me about the launch price of the ps3...i mean i bought one round about that time like a true fanboy :D But really this isnt the point i was making. Whether it was because of launch price, the wii, the 360 launching 1 year early etc. it doesnt really matter. Sony is considerably behind its competitors this gen in the US. Not just by a few million but over 12 million!

And im not so sure on the power of the playstation brand in the US, looking at this NPD results its clear that that power is dwindling. And if the current trends continue and stays the same into next gen, then i dont think Sony would be happy about that at all. So i dont think they can just make a console affordable and have quality titles...they need to do more than that, because its likely that MS will have also done that.

You must also remember where Sony has came from, they were the outright market leader in all regions for two generations. They have taken a big hit this gen. Sony isnt looking to settle for third or second place, they are gonna want to become market leader again, especially in US.

You are a fanboy. 

And while the PS brand was strong after the PS1&2, price will almost always win out.  Especially in a recession.  I doubt anyone would believe for even a second that the 360 would still be 2nd place right now if the PS3 had only launched with a $50-$100 price difference, even with a 360 year head start.  The US chose a cheaper price tag with a similar library.  However, the Xbox preference will not be set in stone for next gen.  In the end, it is really MS who is going to have to prove they are the superior buy next gen.  Sony will undoubtedly have great 1st party support ready for launch and, if history continues to repeat itself, really good HW to back it up.  MS, on the otherhand, has probably spent more money on timed exclusives for this gen than they did on buying/building 1st party studios that will help them next gen.  A Halo from a non-Bungie studio has yet to prove itself and GeOW isn't going to be there next gen.

TBH, the price difference between the 'entry' model PS3 (40g) and the 'premium' 360 model (20g) at launch WAS only ... $100.  Most don't want to remember that, but it's actual and factual.  So that begs the question, exactly WHAT was it that caused so many previous PS2 owners to purchase a 360?  Was it the fact that Gears of War was the only game that TRULY looked and felt 'next gen'?  Was it the forward thinking social features of XBL?  Or was it simply impatient core gamers not wanting to wait for a next gen HD console and purchased 360's before the PS3 launched?

I think it's probably some incalculable combination of all of those along with that immeasurable force known as momentum.  Regardless, this generation proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that the next generation is promised to NO ONE.  The reset button will be pressed and we get to do this all over again.  Good times ahead...

You can't skew the comparison in the 360's favor like that by using the entry model for the PS3 and the premium 360 model.  Entry price is the most important.  And the difference was $200.  Now if you want to truly compare apples to apples, you can compare the prices for both premium models, which would still be a difference of $200.  So, while a year headstart did help the 360, the $200 difference was the largest factor in helping the 360 fair so well against the PS3 in the first 2-3 years of its life.