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kitler53 on 08 September 2011
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PullusPardus said:
kitler53 said:
mario is linear - i was under the impression that one was a classic.

in fact, i would argue that non-linearity largely makes a game less popular. the majority of the gaming audience needs guidance on how to play or they will get lost, confused and then bored, frustrated.


Mario never had toturials, hand holding and actually not linear at all, there are a lot of secrets and "shortcuts"

plus you can play the levels over and over.


mario exactly meets your criterion, you move from point A to point B. let me quote you:

But i also mentioned Assassins Creed, now thats a tricky game to explain since to most people being a sandbox game means its not linear, which isn't true, how? , you see in ass creed when you play you are actually put in city you are free to explore around and jump around, but when it comes to doing the quests themselves , the game becomes just another Uncharted/Gears/whateverlineargame, but thats not all! , Assassins Creed is very known for telling you EXACTLY what you have to do...

if assassins creed is "linear" then mario is the absolute straightest line man or god has ever drawn.  if not, please provide me 3 methods by which i can get from one side of a pit to the other, let me get you started: 1. jump.  while you're at it, please provide at least two other ways in which a level can be beaten that isn't collecting a star or jumping on a flag pole depending on the particular mario game.

now in uncharted, i can run-and-gun, i can go for stealth kills, or i can make use of the cover system.  there are secrets to find to boot!  ...don't even let me get started on how you completely ignored the fact it has multiplayer as well.

but don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to argue that uncharted isn't a linear game.  it's just that the definition you provide cover almost every single game ever created.  any game that is truely a "game" has an objective which makes it a point A to point B system.  right now here are the exceptions i can think of: mario paint.  okay, i honestly didn't try that hard but there probably aren't much more even if i did try hard.

 

...but in the end, i don't care.  this is your opinion.   i'm not going to argue with you any further because your opinion isn't well formed.  you have games you like and games you don't and somehow scapegoated the difference on the word linearity.   as long as the basis of your arguement is founded on a rule that you don't apply to any game you like and find a way to force any game you don't like to apply then you just aren't worth the time to argue with.