Prove that God exists

[sapphi_snake]

padib said:

sapphi_snake said:

padib said:

gtown said:
One cannot prove that God exists.

One cannot prove that God does not exist.

There is Faith and there is doubt. That is all. Your arguments are invalid.

The problem is that there is also doubt in science. But what they say for instance is that the ToE is proven beyond reasonable doubt. That's also my position on Christianity and therefore the God it describes. It has been proven beyond reasonable doubt.

You can ignore the facts, but they are still there. Doubt does not require lack of evidence, that's what's so unique about it.

O_O Maybe I'm totally misunderstanding what you're saying, because you can't possibly be saying what I think you're saying... None of that has been proven at all.

I know sapphi, but I'm using the word proven as Runa is using it. In other words, the events and locations of the bible have archaeological and historical evidence to back them up such that to deny them would be beyond reasonable doubt.

It's an issue with semantics, that's why this thread fails but I tried to circumvent that to at least make it constructive to a certain degree.

No dude, very few of them have. And just because some of  them may have some historical basis, doesn't mean that they're entirely true (mainly, the mythological aspects are false). For example, just because Jesus actually existed, doesn't mean he was the messiah. Just because a part of a story is true doesn't mean that the whole story is.

Actually, this is how you build the most efficient lies. When you like, you musn't fabricate an entire fiction, but rather put a grain of truth in it. Then if people ask for proof, just present to them the little bit of truth of the story. People often make the mistake of thinking that jsut because a part of a story is true, then it all must be true.