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oniyide said:
@rf40928 "because most of us are ok paying for a service we feel has more content we're already used to" Im sorry but how im I wrong?? You said that MOST of you are content to PAY for a service. You dont pay for for Silver and you said MOST, so am i not to assume that you are talking about GOLD? MS said half of 360 users have a GOLD account. HALF, that means most 360 users are NOT content to pay.

Your entire 2nd paragraph is not based on fact. You can believe what you want, but you would be wrong. I have friends who pay for Live and others who dont. Not because they are cheap, its because they either have another system that provides them their basic online needs (PS3, PC maybe even Wii) for free and 2 they feel its wrong to charge something that they feel should be free. You keep bringing up demos and ESPN and all that crap. Im strictly talking about the gaming portion, which you even said yourself that MS could provide free with Siliver

I said yes, most of us that pay for the service ( meaning most of those that pay for Gold ) are content to pay for it.. If around 15 million pay for Gold, and 1 MILLION people are discontent with that  - the majority of us are still content to pay.. but the ones who arent  will make the most noise.. STUDIES Show people that are discontent vocally COMPLAIN More then People that are HAPPY give vocal praise.. If someone is happy with something they will tell 2 people.. If someone is not happy they will tell 7 people..  Get it now ?? 

Also if I address 'your angle' of what I said ( although above I cleared up what I meant ) ..YOU ASSUME that because half of Xbox LIVE subscribers  dont subscribe to Gold ( but are merely Silver subscribers )  that it means ( to you ) that the majority of Silver users arent content to pay...Some arent, but what about the millions of people who play games that dont focus or require any online gaming at all ?  My brother hardly ever logs on PSN, but he is a subscriber.  Does this mean he is DISCONTENT to pay for PS Plus ?  It means he doesnt need PS Plus, but it doesnt mean he wouldnt like PS Plus or be CONTENT with it. 

Again - going on what you said - lets look at this - I told you above $1 BILLION was grossed on Xbox Live.. If you add up subscribers paying for GOLD it doesnt even get close to $1 billion  ..So where does all this extra revenue come from ?   XB (free) Silver users  account for MILLIONS of dollars in purchases from things like purchased or rented movies on Zune .. they spend more money on things like this ( a 1080p movie cost 12 dollars to buy ) and the fact they make all these other purchases online says -"they have the money, but not the need for online gaming" - they  possibly don't care about online gaming at all - milions of gamers out there really dont play a genre that requires or has online play .. ... ..ON BOTH PS3 & XB 360 most people playing online are playing COD -or another FPS - ( This is varifiable  FACT )... there are MILLIONS of people who dont play FPS's or do any online gaming..and for people like this there is little reason to pay for Gold...

Besides that what you're saying is OBVIOUS.  I had a PS3.. And again my brother owns all three consoles - he does online game, but not much.. for people like him he will sometimes let his Gold subscription expire because he doesnt use it .. So just because people dont pay for GOLD as you say - it doesnt mean they are discontent paying for it.. It can mean they dont need it or arent playing much right now.....

Its funny you even mention the Wii.. the functionality can barely even be compared to XB Live Silver - Why have a friends list on the Wii and play online when I cant talk to them while I play onine ?