Will the launch of PSV affect PS3 sales in Japan?

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Michael-5 said:

MARCUSDJACKSON said:

Michael-5 said:

 

PSV has a bunch of new integrated control mechanisms, but hey you know what, so does 3DS. First of all 3DS is tilt and motion sensitive (like a Wii-mote, and six-axis). 3DS also has augmented reality (however I'm not sure if it's up to the same level as PSV. 3DS has a virtual console, DS Backward compatibility, an analog stick (FPS's wouldn't work on a handheld anyway, I think 1 is enough). 3DS offers about as much as the PSV does. The main difference I see is 3D/Virtual console/BC vs. back touch pad/second analog stick/graphics. it seems neither can do without a function of there home console counterparts with titl/motion controls. yea i think we should leave the augmented reality out of this as  neither one of us really knows to much about which is better. i disagree about the shooter on hanhelds not working. i think vita will get it right where no other handheld has. so we can scratch the motion controls cause PS3 and Wii have it, augmented reality since both handhelds have it, the 3DS analog since PSP had it first, the virtual console cause Wii has it, thouch screen since they both have it, and PSV wins by 1 anolog stick and a rear touch pad, while 3ds comes up short with just 3d lol. i just broke both dwon until they had something the home consoles , and there predecessors didn't have or things both have in common. 

i question. do you agree vita has more control options? oh the only reason i didn't take both analog sticks away from PSV is because 2 analogs are a first time introduction to handhelds.

I agree with you about PS3 cutting the lead to 2 million by the end of 2011. MS has got to do something, I know they are raking in the cash on every 360 console they sell, but they need to care about the consumers more. However for MS to sit back and do nothing, something is up. There should be at the very least a Kinect price cut. agreed to a point. i don't think MS has anything. there have been few surprises this gen. you say the info i gave on consoles in the console elimination thread right? well i bring this tid bit of info. PS3 has been making profit since 2009. it cost 240 to make PS3 in 2009 and thats when Sony cut the price to $299. funny isn't it. hey i was shock'd to find that out cause it was all doom and gloom for Sony back then on VGC.

For price cuts, most consoles have sold their greatest volume at the $199 price point. however with inflation, that price point is now approaching $250. I don't think any future price cuts will budge sales. When PS2 dropped to $139, sales barely budged, and look at Wii this year. I feel 2011 is the last year Sony and MS have a chance to break even. Next year I expect 20% drops for PS360. good point but remember me and you are not the average consumer so we see these things. wht the average consumer sees as a bargain price never changes, unless they have less money, and higher bills. a price cut is a price cut to the average consumer and inflation has nothing to do with spending when it comes to a seemingly attractive price, so inflation is not a factor in a purchase when it comes to the consumer, $199 has change for us because we know but not for the average consumer.$199 is means $199 to them. when was the last time you heard someone say "you remeber when gas was $1.00?" think about it then tell me if inflation means anything to the consumer.

Nostaliga.....the issue is that most of Sony's bigger PS1 and PS2 titles were third party, and most of which have gone multiplatform, or the IP has been sold. If Sony loses MGS exclusivity, that could really hurt them. Twisted Metal is a fun game, but not a best seller. Sony needs to expand Polyphony Digital, we can't wait another 4+ years for another Gran Turismo. I mean Turn 10 is over twice as big. well i can't argue that logic.

What other nostalgic games were you thinking of? PS3 franhcises? I agree that Sony should keep some PS3 franchises (definatly Uncharted), but they also need to make a bunch of new IP's. New Ip's really saved them this gen. can't disagree with that logic either. after wht we've seen from Sony this gen with the level, or multiple number of new IP released i find it hard to think Sony wouldn't follow up with the same trend next gen while pushing the ip that made them a success this gen.

If you took off virtual console cause Wii has it, then you should take off a second analog stick cause PS3 has it. It's only fair. This is also the first time virtual console has been on a handheld too. 3DS Virtual console is different from Wii because it does GBC and GBA games, were Wii does not (at least not GB/GBC games). Both PSV and 3DS have their own unique features, all I am saying is I feel PSV vs. 3DS will mimic the sales pattern PSP and DS did. So PSV will Rock out in Japan, but world wide, nostaligia and good old Nintendo quality will win. ok but if i add the virtual console then i got to bring back the on screen buttons for PSV. hey i'm not beating you down. just having alittle fun. i'm not sure about the sells thing. nostalgia is a good arguement for a 3DS win, but i'm just not sure about the sells thing, but its a great argument that holds weight.

As for FPS's on a handheld, maybe some will sell alright on PSV, but not Call of Duty. I only see single player FPS's taking off on handhelds, and the market will be much smaller then the console market. see the thing is that vita can play like the big boy's so i can see COD working well on vita. even in online multiplayer but we don't have enough info and haven't seen it in action so thats another one we'll have to drop for now.

Do I agree that PSV has more control options then 3DS. Yes, but I don't think most games will take advantage of that. Wii for instance has a gamecube controller as a backup control method, but how many games use it? When I play Mario Kart I stick with the nunchuch and Wii-mote option, and never pkay with another one. I think the back touchpad is great, but I don't see many games taking advantage of it, and if they do, people people won't notice. but wht buts? i don't see any buts! well i'm sure there will be games that only have touch pad and on screen buttons as the only option. it all about building the game around the options and i believe dev will take that advantage as they do on home consoles. bulletstorm for PS3 only allows you to shoot with R1 and not R2. theres no way i've seen to change that option, but looking at Resistance one where Insomniac let you customize controls catering to your play style.

Sony has been making profit on PS3 since 2009, and it probably costs them <$200 to develop now, but think how much does a 360 cost? I read Kinect costs $60 to build, but they sell it for $150, and if I had to guess, the 360 itself is an $80-$100 system. Selling it at $300 is too much profit for MS. thats a business arguement. considering most reports i here MS is taking a lose on the 360 division as a whole so somethings wrong with that area of oporations but we won't know wht that is until theres a leak.

Inflation matters! $200 now is worth less then $200 10 years ago. Where I live, Mimimum wage now is $10 an hour, 10 years ago it was $7. This means 10 years ago it would take 29 hours at minimum wage to buy a $200 console, now it takes 20. once again it matters to us because we see it. the average consumer doesn't. they see $100 as $100 even if its $200 cause the average consumer doesn't see inflation. they see price, and $199 is the price.

Inflation is why parents can buy their kids a $250 3DS handheld. I remember being a kid and having to wait for the Gameboy to drop to $100 before it was affordable to get. wait are we talking about the the reason for the cost of goods or the need for price drops? your lossing me on this one. ok. so your saying cause of inflation parents make moree money so there able to buy higher priced thing as when inflation was lower they waited for price drops right? heres a small counter for you. wht has happend since PS3DS had there price drop? a pick up in sells right!. that shows the visual price is whts important, bot inflation.

As for Nostalgia, I think we come to an agreement. doesn't surprise me lol.