On what basis was 'HELL' invented?

[Joelcool7]

Galaki said:

Joelcool7 said:

You don't have to be good in a way. You have to follow Christ which means well you sorta do have to be good. Since Christs teachings were very explicit on how to act and live our lives. Yes their is a good reason to be a good person from beginning to end, because if you accept Christ and follow his teachings then you will be good.

Christianity is a faith based on forgiveness. Its also a faith that acknowledges man's flaws their is no such thing as a good man. No such thing as a sinless man, we all sin. As such yah we are going to be forgiven for the things we do, if we ask for that forgiveness and genuinely do believe and follow Christ.

The Bible clearly says no man should judge another man. It says that you will be judged as you judge others. Only God can judge and while we have guidlines to life set out in the Bible their is no way we could fathom or understand how he will pass judgement. We only know that if we follow his teachings and accept his forgiveness it will be granted.

How would we know if someone was buying their way to heaven? How could someone buy their way to heaven when eternal life is not conditional on deeds? Someone doing good deeds constantly to try and get to heaven will be no more likely to go there then the man who turns his life around.

It does say in the Bible good deeds and living a good life will be rewarded with treasures that are eternal in heaven. However it does not say that deeds can get you to heaven.

Circular reasonings.

Point 1. God is a tyrant. According to you, not me :)

Point 2. If we are all sinners. A little more sins doesn't really do anything, would it? I.E. I robbed 10 banks, would it matter if I rob just 1 more?  If everything we do or not do may or may not be sins, how do we know what to do and not to do? Shouldn't it be clear for the people who wish to follow?

Point 3. Which backs up my argument with Point 2. If you are told that you can't judge what's right or wrong, how do you (or anyone) know what you're doing is right or wrong?

Point 4. Again, God is a tyrant. :) At least, tell us, clearly, what is right and wrong. If we aren't allowed clear paths that we can then judge ourselves and others, there's no way to know what's right or wrong.

Point 5. Lastely, it again goes back to previous points. How do you suppose we follow God if God gives no path for us to follow?

 

We are all judges. We judge ourselves and other people. We assume. By simply saying you follow God, you're not following. Since you said it yourself as pointed out above. God gives you no path to follow. You are unable to tell what's right or wrong. You are not allowed to judge.

It's like saying. I, God, wants everyone to follow me. It's the only path to Heaven. But, you can't follow me and I am not going to give you direction.

When did I say that? Dude you totally don't understand Christianity. Fact is the Bible is a path to follow, Jesus laid it out perfectly throughout the Bible exactly how we are supposed to live. Just because he forgives people for their sins doesn't mean he's a tyrant.

We are all judges, however we are supposed to control ourselves and not judge others. Its very important not to pass judgement on someone else , rather try and understand why they did what they did. Often their are very reasonable reasons for someone doing something and when their aren't its usually a mental disability and such. Nobody does anything for no reason at all and judging everything everyone does when you yourself do tons of things is just plain wrong.

Umm your misreading facts, since Adam and Eve ate of the tree of good and evil they did understand what was right and wrong.

Lets rephrase what you said logically

I God, want everyone to follow me. All those who do accept forgiveness will be granted it and live forever in heaven. I sent my son and the Bible to guide you in how to live a life that is pleasing to me and will help you.

Also I can't see how I in any way insinuated God is a tyrant. Forgiving all our sins, sending his son to die and always loving us. I can't see that as tyranny.