Prove that God exists

[Troll_Whisperer]

nightsurge said:

Troll_Whisperer said:

nightsurge said:

I will ignore the slightly insulting OP's usage of "archaic" and other words that imply belief in a religion to be silly, old fashioned, or otherwise odd.

I just have two things to say:

 

1. Science never PROVES anything. This is a common misusage/misconception.

1. If you wish to believe in the Big Bang Theory or other creation theories that don't rely on a devine being, explain to me where the very first object in the universe came from. They say the Big Bang started from a very small amount of elements that began moving extremely rapidly in a dense state. Well, what about where those elements came from? They had to come from somewhere, correct? Just a little philosophical conundrum.

 

Enjoy :)

I'll add to the conundrum: If those elements came from God, where did God come from?

It is much easier to accept that some elements were there forever than that there was a God that was there forever to create them. Why not skip that step?

Otherwise we can argue that God has a God who has a God who has a God...

That is incorrect. The belief of an all-powerful being is that he/she exists beyond the realm of time and always has/always will exist. There was no "creator" for an omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent being.

However, there are creators of all elements known to man, forming from the first few elements in the supposed Big Bang theory.

So really it is much easier to believe that something had to have created even those beginning elements and something even before them. Because after all, nothing is simply nothing, and the only possible explanation for creating SOMETHING out of NOTHING would be actions of a higher power.

If you can argue a god was there forever you can argue those were there forever, dude.

God himself would be something out of nothing.

If he 'exists beyond the realm of time and always has/always will exist' you can say the same of that matter.

There's no way to spin this, seriously. Having a God create everything just raises more questions.