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Kantor said:
wilco said:
Kantor said:
wilco said:
This thread is just plain silly.

OP... can you prove evolution?

As well you know, science doesn't prove anything, it only disproves.

However, there is an enormous mountain of evidence in favour of it. One example of many:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peppered_moth_evolution

Can you prove creationism without referring to a book collected 1800 years ago made up of loosely interconnected anecdotes that conflict enormously with each other, which itself built on a book 2000 years older than that?

Well, science has yet to disprove God. So I guess were at a stalemate.

There is also an enormous mountain of evidence in favor of God's existence. You seem to accept evolution based solely on logical deductions, yet you reject the idea of a God when similar logical deductions could be made to prove that theory. Your bias appears to be based only on your feelings towards organized religion. 

Many of the greatest philosophers and scientists in history believed in God. Galileo and Newton were devout christians. Albert Einstein believed and even Darwin accepted the possibility. Were all these guys idiots?

Galileo and Newton grew up in a time before atheism was even a real thing. The fact that Darwin was a Christian shows that God is not at odds with evolution. And by no reasonable definition was Einstein a Christian.

Once again, there is nothing wrong with belief in God in itself, just what comes of belief in God. What is God? It is a word made up by mankind. How do you even define it? A creator? An omnipotent being? A piece of cheese lying in my fridge? Disproving god would be like disproving "wibbleflurble". Neither is a clearly defined concept. The problems come when you say that he is a creator and omnipotent being, start assigning him a personality and morality, and say that we have to listen to him.


See I agree with Kantor for the most part. Well the first paragraph.

However if a creator does exist how could he not be an omnipotent being. He created the whole freaking universe I would say that its hard for him not to be omnipotent. Now can we understand God's personality, hell know but you see Christian's believe Jesus Christ was the son of God as such we base our beliefs about God's personality and morality on the teachings of Jesus Christ. Other faith such as Muslim's believe that Mohammed was given the Quran from God, as another user said try to explain how he could have possibly put it together, I don't even believe in Islam but even I can't explain how it was possible.

Also saying we have to listen to him. Umm if he created us and everything in existance I'm pretty sure he has more knowledge then we do. He knows how things work alot better then we do. If he says we should do something and he actually exists then we should probably listen, especially when most of what he says makes perfect sense to even us.

The fact hinges on beliefs, if you believe God exists thenchances are you also believe he is an imnipotent being. You also have a basis for your beliefs which is usually found in a spiritual leader and/or religious text.

Its all very logical if you believe in the existance of a God. If you do not, it is harder to understand. But I have met many Agnostics who understand fully why religious people believe as they do.



-JC7

"In God We Trust - In Games We Play " - Joel Reimer