Kantor said:
SpartenOmega117 said:
SpartenOmega117 said:
SpartenOmega117 said:
Runa216 said:
7eyes said: No these things didnt come from religion. God made us in his image and these are HIS traits. Religion is from man, God gave us his word to help understand who he is and what life is aboutJesus never said to the one thief on the cross, "you must get down and do "insert religious works here" and you will be saved. He told him because of his faith, today he would see him in paradise. The thief knew Jesus was the son of God and was dieing for his sins. . That we are sinners and need salvation, and we cant do it on our own. eg works. NOTHING you do can save you, He has paid the price you need to except it and only you can do this no one else can except it for you. |
Okay, you've made many high claims, now prove it. Offer some evidence to support your theory, please.
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Im not gonna support 7eyes here because I really don't think Jesus was the son of god. I don't think God would ever want to degrade himself to the level of humans or even have a son(ehich doesn't make any senese what soever. Does god have a wife?) But answer this. In terms of the quran how can a man without any education doesn not know how to read/write able to produce the quran? The book has many things in it (universe is expanding, earth revolves around sun, earth is round, only able to see one side of the moon, etc.) that even a very literate man back then would not know. Answer that?
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anyone answer my question?
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come on does no one have an answer? What about you Kantor?
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1) Stop quoting yourself
2) Because science back then was a lot more developed than you used to think, particularly in what is now Arabia and India. And what makes you think Muhammad wrote the Qu'ran? Moreover, if you're intent on finding science in anything, you can find it. People find science in the Bible, too. Did the Qu'ran speak of relativity or quantum mechanics? How can the all-knowing God not understand these things?
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it doesn't matter how scientifc or not the quran, bible, etc. is. My main question is how was some so illterate able to produce it? He actually recited it and the only people who could write at the time wrote it. And no science was not as developed either. Arabia was pretty much at the bottom of the food chain in the day of Mohammad. Kind of like the dark ages of europe. Pretty much no one could have known and put the quran together in such an organized manner.