Prove that God exists

[Joelcool7]

Runa216 said:

Joelcool7 said:

Not trying to insult you. I'm just trying to give you some friendly advice and also get this offensive thread closed. Its not that I have anything against you as a user or writer. I just think that in this case you over stepped the boundaries and should probably take responsability for that action.

 

Okay, I only read about half this post, (the first half and the last couple paragraphs), but I want you to do one thing for me: Explain to me how questioning someone's beliefs is in any way offensive.  you keep assuming this thread is offensive, and that I'm stereotyping but All I've done time and time again is ask people to offer supporting evidence to their claims.  There's a lot of "God is this" and "Heaven is Real" and "These are the divine rules" claims being thrown around, all I'm asking is one thing: Prove it.  

If people are going to keep making bold claims, they're going to continuously tell people "this is the truth", I expect them to back it up with conclusive or at least supporting evidence.  Only one person in this entire thread has even attempted that (well, maybe two or three, but only one did so respectfully and in a manner befitting of the respect I offer him).   

Instead you're just proving one of my greatest criticisms of religion:  they can dish out the criticisms and "we want proof" attitude when dealing with science, but when that same burden of proof is turned to them, they are not only unable to deliver, but also hide under their veil of "Don't mock my faith" and we're left with yet another situation where you can't be honest with religion because it's considered taboo to question faith.  

Maybe you should read my entire posts before addressing them. I never ever said it was offensive to question my beliefs or any other users. I said how you created this thread was offensive. You specifically said you didn't want the educated and intellectual responses which obviously acknowledge you can't prove God exists. You specifically wanted people to say things that you have the upper hand against. Not a intellectual discussion at all you rigged the thread. Also your comments about Christianity being "Archaic" and such do not make this an open discussion. Every comment you have made thus far has shown you are not interested in an intellectual debate. Your comments abound other users, instead of responding specifically to their evidences you say their sources are biased and such, they may be but you didn't respond to their actual evidence.

Alright, you make all these devine claims that heaven is not real and God doesn't exist, prove it? You can't and if you think you can you need serious help. You already know nobody can prove it just like you can't and your not open to hearing their opinions.

Look at your weak knowledge of the Bible for example. 7eyes made a comment about how actions don't get you into heaven and talked basic Biblical knowledge. You then said you wanted proof, lol anyone with basic knowledge of the Bible knows what he said is biblical.

As I said earlier your bold claims have just as little proof to back them up then Dr.Glass and Rainbird. You say God doesn't exist wheres your proof? You want to call people's beliefs out, on what grounds? You want others to show you proof to support their beliefs when your whole belief system is based on faith in science without a basic foundation in science.

I have never said I want proof, I already know it doesn't exist. If it did I would believe differently. Your refering to me proving your point but as I said right above your proving your own point.

Also as I said anyone with basic scientific knowledge knows that science cannot prove or disprove the existance of God. I have nothing against science infact I took Biology in University for a year. I also believe in some scientific theories that have been proven such as Micro Evolution. I have yet to see a single peice of scientific evidence that disproves anything I believe in, any theories that do are unproven and usually take more faith to believe in then the existance of God.

Also some users here both athiests and believers have misquoted basic facts. A major one I noticed is the claim that the Bible says the earth is 6,000 years old. Now we have generic time lines in the Bible which do indicate that humans haven't been around millions of years. However the Bible itself never says 6,000 years old, that is a deduction a group of scholars have come to and while it is interesting it is not 100% fact.

Also the Bible doesn't specify how God created the earth, infact it doesn't even say how long it took. God could have very well used evolution their are several theories as to how he created earth and such. Such as the mature earth theory where he created a mature earth.

As I said science isn't at war with faith. It doesn't prove or disprove faith and nobody who has basic education will try to claim otherwise. There are thousands of Christian scientists and once you throw in scientists of all the other faiths their are more faith believing scientists then athiest scientists.

So please start respecting other users, if you want to question beliefs go ahead but do so in a respectful manor.