Kasz216 said:
A) Except... it excluded christians like Gnostics. The universal church WAS the Catholic Church. B) They may disagree with it... but they're wrong and only wish to disagree with it because they don't like the Catholics. C) Again... that's simply splitting hairs. Heck the rest of the numbers after 41 basically admt this as it talks about the authority of the pope. If he wasn't the head of the Christian Church... who was? The term protos is just a splitting head term to ignore the fact that Eastern Orhtodox is a branch religion. I mean it was specifically made up for that reason. |
A. No, it wasn't. There was no Catholic Church then. I thought I already explained this. *sigh*
B. Or Catholics are wrong and don't want to admit it, because that would mean admitting that the Pope is a power-hungry con artist. The stakes are high for both sides (more so for Catholics). And considering that Catholics have a history of fabricating fictions to support the ideea of the Pope's supremacy (see, the Donation of Constantine), I'm inclined to think they're in the wrong.
C. It's not splitting hairs, it's just the reality of it. The bishop of Rome never had the prerogatives that the Pope currently has in the Catholic Church, and he was no more a successor to Peter as any other bishop.
Anyways, I can't believe we're actually having this conversation. I for one have no personal stake in this issue (for obvious reasons), and I assume neither do you, so I'm gonna bow out and leave this to the Vatican vs. the rest of the Christian world.
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