sapphi_snake said:
Jumpin said:
I don't see it that way. Christianity today is largely Nicenism; not what my family follows. The Nicenes not only persecuted the Greek and Roman mystics, but also persecuted Jews and all other forms of Christianity, including the true Christians - who were themselves mystics. Not to mention, the Nicenes were the ones who turned Christianity into a warlike faith, and slaughtered and murdered in the name of Jesus, and judged others as heretics and heathens if they were not Nicenes themselves. In my opinion, the Nicenes are NOT Christians, the history of their leaders is that of judgemental warmongering hypiocrites. The very fact that they turned into persecutors themselves shows that they are not true Christians - and worst of all, the persecutors of those very people who followed the earliest saints. The "Jesus" which the Nicenes follow has little in common with the actual Christ, and much in common with the antichrist.
The Nicenes (Catholics and the faiths descended from Catholics) follow a form of Christianity whose power arose from the politically superior (namely Emperors like Constantine and Theodosius). It was from these Emperors and their successors, the Kings and Emperors who claimed to be Christian, who would go throughout and persecute those who were not Nicenes. It wasn't until later that the supreme Capital of Western Christianity was in Rome; and while the Bible speaks of Babylon the unholy city, and its 7 peaks.... As we know Babylon is not a city which sits amongst the 7 peaks; there is only one city which is famous for its 7 peaks, and those peaks are: The Capitoline Hill, the Aventine Hill, the Palatine Hill, the Caelian Hill, the Viminal Hill, the Quirinal Hill, and the Esquiline Hill - and that City is Rome. Christianity is a religion of love and forgiveness. it is Rome's Nicene religion, branded as Christianity, that is one of judgment, fear, and persecution; those who follow them go to heaven, and everyone else goes to hell - typical fear driven religion of the Nicenes.
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I seriously can't believe you actually believe some of the things you've mentioned in this post. So, essentially you're saying that there are actually almost no Christians in the world?
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What he's saying isn't really wrong. Except possibly the whole anticrist thing.
Afterall if China got ahold of the Dhali Llama and all his followers, killed the Dhali Llama, insitutes yellow hat buddism as the national compulsitory religion... found the "new llama" and then used the new Llama to go on a rampage....
would you really blame Yellow Hat Buddism for that?
The Niceans he is talking about is of course the Nicean council which transformed Christianity into what it is today... getting rid of teaching they didn't like such as
1) Everyone gets into heaven... hell isn't a fiery pit so much as a being sad that you've failed your creator and being forced to share eternity with all those you've wronged and everyone knowing you've wronged them.
2) Christ may not have actually been god himself.
3) If God and Christ were the same person. (IE ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.")
4) Removal of various other books because they didn't fit with Roman ideals... even though some of the other principal books that couldn't be replaced referenced these books,(Aka the important gospels) instead of the ones that replaced them.
Really the number of Christians that exists generally depends on where he considers Niceans going "too far". He could simply be a Coptic. There are a decent number of Coptics out there.
Or he could be a more traditional Christian, though such a group I'd think would have to be built out of long painstaking research... unless there is a branch i'm missing, which is possible.
