Michael-5 said:
mantlepiecek said:
I think its fair to compare two franchises because they are both of the same genre. What can we do to try to evaluate diversity? When a particular fanbase is supposed to be diverse they can't buy something more than the average because than they wouldn't be diverse.
About portal, like I said, out of all the fpses Halo and call of duty sell the most in fact they are the majority. Attach rates don't really matter because attach rates will always be higher in America. There isn't much relation to diverse audience with attach rate.
To give you an example lets see the action genre on the PS3 vs fps genre on the 360 :
Out of the top 20 action games that have sold on the PS3, there are 16 different IPs. Out of these, there are 6 open world/sandbox games, 4 stealth action games(assassin's creed and Mgs 4), 3 third person shooters including Uncharted, 5 hack and slash and the remaining are batman and lego.
Out of the top 20 fps games on the 360 you have 10 different IPs. Out of these there are 6 call of duties, 3 halos, 2 left 4 deads, 1 battlefield bad company 2, 2 RSVegas, 2 bioshocks, 1 medal of honor, 1 borderlands, 1 GRAW, and the orange box. So a total of 11 military based shooters (Bad company, rainbow six, graw, call of duty, medal of honor).
Over 50 % of the fps games in the top 20 are millitary based shooters and even if we remove call of duty, there is still GRAW which is different but still military based and vegas and medal of honor and battlefield. If we include halo in it then that's 14. But I am not sure if people agree with halo being a military shooter even though technically its a military what I played in halo 3.
At the end of the day fps games don't have as much variety as action games. Uncharted is a lot different from assassin's creed and there's not that much difference between halo and call of duty. Uncharted and god of war 3 are different, god of war and assassin's creed are different, GTA and god of war is almost a genre apart and they are called as action games.
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What did you count Gears of War as? Action? Even though it's a 3rd person shooter, it's still a shooter non the less. Same with Uncharted (more shooting then climbing).
Assassin's Creed, God of War, and GTA are proper action games because the games are either completly gun free, or shooting isn't a primary aspect of the game.
Still those charts are funny. The only major difference between PS3 and 360 is that Action and FPS are reversed.
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Gears of war is a shooter because shooting is what you do the most. And there isn't much emphasis on the story throughout the game. It is still technically an action game.
Uncharted 2 is a little different, I can sneak around the environments, using stealth kills, melee kills and then there's shooting as well. In terms of pure gameplay for many people its probably a shooter, however Uncharted 2 is not all about the gameplay as much as it is about the story, and the story is presented a lot like an action movie. And it does have a lot of platforming, if you see most parts of the game have platforming and set-pieces. Not all parts of the game even require shooting. The first part of Uncharted 2 itself is stealth level where you cannot shoot.
To call it a third person shooter seems weird, just like calling metal gear solid 4 as a third person shooter when there's a first person camera in it. Camera angles mean little in these games, and metal gear solid 4 is more gadget stealth game like splinter cell than a shooter. In fact in metal gear solid 4 the most memorable part of the game doesn't have shooting.
I agree with assassin's creed and GTA. If you notice GTA does have shooting but just like Uncharted its not its primary focus, there are many other aspects of the game that's important.
@bolded That's important, all this time I was hearing how the PS3 audience is a shooter audience too because of call of duty sales, funny how when you combine both shooter and fps sales of the PS3 they don't surpass the action genre.
