Is there someone who you often disagree with ideologically but still view as a hero?

[sapphi_snake]

Jumpin said:

sapphi_snake said:

Blacksaber said:

sapphi_snake said:

scottie said:

osamanobama said:

scottie said:

osamanobama said:

that scares me. i could never view a mass murderer (of his own people even) as a hero

List some of your heros.

 

Anyway, I disagree quite strongly with a lot of Lenin's ideaologies (or at least his implementation of them) but I still consider him to be a hero.

i did

.and that scares me even more.

You listed one. List more of your heroes, don't even have to limit it to those who you disagree with.

 

You are honestly scared by democratic socialism? I suspect you are infact thinking of Stalin, but it's ok, I would imagine the American history sylabus doesn't differentiate between the two, nor between them and the devil. if you're ever interested in learning something about Lenin, Marx and democratic socialism, then just give me a bell.

This line is just brilliant!

Scottie isn't that off really since the textbook I had during high school demonized both Marx and Lenin as being Stalin clones. Really it's sad to see how badly textbooks which are suppose to show history are tainted with nationalistic tones which twist the truth. Though I guess I'll take their twists over their over use of ignoring anything that will paint the country in any negative light, but I'm just rambling off topic.

But Marx and Lenin lived before Stalin... How can they be clones of him?

Time Machines.