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osamanobama on 26 August 2011
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mrstickball said:
Jumpin said:
Joelcool7 said:

I would die before being forced to change my religion.

However if I was not Christian 

I have seen posts by you claiming to be a right winged, pro-military anti-social welfare supporter. It is one thing to call yourself a Christian, it is quite another to oppose some of its core principles which include non-violence, anti-warfare, and social welfare.

The great irony of the Modern World is that Christianity is most often associated with political philosophy which the bible excplicitly opposes.

What if you are certain the enemy is evil? Matthew 5:42 states "Do not resist one who is evil." and is followed by 5:43 which states "Love your enemies; pray for your persecutors."

"Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword" (Matthew 26:52) Shows that Jesus dislikes those who are violent; going so far as to condemning them to death by the sword. It is not so much a warning against picking up the sword, but as a statement to his peaceful followers stating that the savage warriors will die by savagery themselves.

 

Right winged Conservatives are like the Pharisees, Jesus was very Liberal, and very much against the Pharisees.

If you are slapped, offer the other cheek.

 

Gandhi was very liberal as well, and a follower of Jesus as well as other faiths. He followed the path of Christ far better than those who claim to be Christian, but are indeed merely the puppets of Pharisees.


Two things to think about:

  1. Jesus was non-violent, but also preached self defense. Luke 22:36-38. He also attacked moneychangers in the temple with a whip. John 2:14-16. Although Jesus was certainly against most forms of violence, its foolish to think he was a total pacificst.
  2. Jesus did preach social welfare, but not in any governmental capacity. The church of Acts did not attempt to coerce nor force welfare on anyone. It was fully voluntary, and was considered an act of charity. Furthermore, no mention in the entire Bible is given, even in the area of a theocratic society, that government must force welfare on anyone - Biblical welfare is 100% voluntary (although desired that 100% participate in taking care of the needy).

thank you, but i already basically said the same thing right above you... but you said it better