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Marks said:
Wow EA are douches for doing that. Shift is shit, do they really think it can compete with GT and Forza? And do they really think the inclusion of Porsches will be a deciding factor for someone deciding between Forza 4 and Shift 2?

it looks that way. i may get need for speed bargan ben but not new retail(not likely though as i'm a viper over porche man myself). i got a few friends that like it because you not just racing on tracks but i'd tell them to get mod nation racers and build your own in enviroments.