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kitler53 said:
milkyjoe said:

@the bolded, you'll have to show me where I said that. What I linked you to was a video of OoT using tilt controls for aiming in first person, which is a very similar concept to using the Wii remote for aiming in first person in Twilight Princess, it isn't used throughout the majority of either game as you still use Z-targeting in normal play which of course moves the camera automatically, but you should really know this, as it's one of the most basic elements of 3D Zelda games...

The whole point is that the 3DS isn't similar to single analog devices like the PSP or N64 whereby you had to use buttons or rely on third parties poorly implemented auto cameras, which ultimately led to the need for a second stick. You have the option of using the touchscreen or the gyroscope instead, hell developers could even use the option of the built in camera for face tracking like that 3D thing on the DSi if they so desired. Option is the key word in all of that, meaning a second stick isn't as essential here.

to the top paragraph - rainbird had a nice long post to which i agreed with and added an extra sentence for with you called his argument "moot" because the 3DS has gyroscopes.

to the second paragraph - the z-targeting in zelda is a poorly implemented auto camera system, at least when you compare it to dual analog camera controls.  does it make the game unplayable?  of course not.  but at least for me (i guy very used to dual analog controls) it makes zelda feel very clumbsy and frustrating to control and part of why i don't really like the series anymore.  okay yeah, nintendo's auto camera system isn't nearly as terrible as what third parties have come up with but that doesn't make it good.

Erm, yes... because his whole argument was based around the 3DS 'relying on the touchscreen' for camera controls and thus being in need of a second stick, when there are other options (there's that word again) that negate that need, as I've pointed out.

Z-targeting is one of the most influential and famous targeting systems ever created. I don't think we need to say much more on that, you're entitled to your opinion, even if it is complete bollocks.



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