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Joelcool7 said:

Well he says some scary shit like

I was talking to him about how Christian's and other religious groups were being forced to convert in some countries in Africa. He then said that it was Islamic and that all Infidel need to convert whether by choice or by force. I was like "Umm I'm Christian dude" and he was like "yah you'll convert if you need to , I have faith you will see the errors of your ways".

You can't force people to convert ("No compulsion in religion"). Africa is a lost region, all impoverished countries thanks to the colonies and wars they suffered.

He also said shit like the creators of South Park or anybody who depicts the prophet Mohamed should be killed. I then asked about the guy who wrote about how Islam mistreats women. He said anyone who said anything contradictory to the teachings of Allah must die.

No, that's not our judgement to pass on, but God's. He'll deal with people justly who insult Islam or mistreat followers of any other religion for that matter. And if the by the guy who wrote about how Islam mistreats women, you mean Theo Van Gogh and that Somalian lady (Ayaan Hirsi Ali I think her name is), then once again, no. We go by "An eye for an eye"...in other words, we can't transgress limits, and having mercy is more virtuous too.

That said, I don't feel sorry for Theo (A Moroccan-Dutch citizen associated with Hofstad assassinated him). He played with fire, and got burned. No man/woman who tries to promote ignorance and hatred towards other groups deserves my pity or anyone else's for that matter, even though I don't support the murder. But at the same time, if the Western authorities would take more steps towards censorship of such ignorant, offensive material, like they do with anything that is even slightly antisemitic, things wouldn't have gotten so ugly. I support freedom of speech, but there has to be limits too.

Long story short I was amazing friends with this guy. But recently statements like these creep me out. He also every time I see him says I'm going to convert and be saved.

The fact that he has not actually read the Quran combined with extremist statements really concerns me. To the point I don't really talk to the guy anymore.

I can't see the Quran promoting slaughtering everyone who doesn't believe or anyone who disagrees with the Quran. I've had conversations with Imam's who have told me contrary.

Yeah, he's just talking rubbish.

I talked with one Imam at the World Religion Conference. He told me that Muslims and the Quran have high respect for Christians and Jews. The people of the book he called Christians. He then told me how Christians and Jews were the descendants of Isaac and Muslims from Ishmael and said that Islam holds Christians and such in high regard.

He also told me that the Quran taught to help those being persecuted and that Muslims in the early days used to rebuild church's and help Christian's being persecuted by Rome.

Correct, though specifically both Christians and Jews are considered people of the book.

So yah I've read a bit of the Quran. I also have talked to Islamic Imam's and his views seem alittle out of line. However on the other hand their are so many extremist Muslim's preaching what my friend says that its hard to understand where to truth lies.

My friend continues to say he's my friend. But it got pretty scary when he said Christian's should be killed if they don't convert and that I will convert if I need too. I wasn't sure whether to take that as a threat or not.

But the guy also seems like everyone else, plays video games, watches alotta movies and listens to secular music. He claims to be more liberal.

But to be honest talk like that does scare me. I don't think its based on the Quran, but I'm not 100% sure it isn't. Its hard to know what to believe when many Muslim's say it is and others that it isn't!

Us Muslims today are lost. We have no real leader who preaches Islam correctly (though I personally think Mahathir Mohamad, Erdogan, and the current Emir of Qatar have the right idea), not many Muslims today take their faith seriously, or have ambitions in life. And in fact, we were warned of an era when this would happen.

http://www.inter-islam.org/faith/Signs-Of-Qiyaamah.htm



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