Final-Fan said:
Kasz216 said:
superchunk said:
Kasz216 said:
Final-Fan said:
superchunk said:
"Americans" don't care about the bus. Especially when its the same bus type/company that Bush and Clinton used.
Its the damn republican party who has been going overboard on its attempt to destroy Obama in any possible way... even if it meant the collapse of the government itself. |
Wow. I cannot say I am shocked, but I think that even knowing the state of today's media I am disappointed.
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If were true. [...] new busses... which don't look anything like Bush/Clinton or really anyones bus.
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When did I say they were not new buses?
Point is, previously Clinton and and Bush rented from the same manufacturer (which removes the entire Canada arguement) and the Secret Service completely retrofitted the busses with higher security stuff and other items. Then when the president was done, they removed the stuff and returned the buses.
This time Obama simply bought them so they don't need to remove all the stuff later. Overall cost probably was close to the same.
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You said it was the same type of bus too... which it's not even close.
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He said "type/company" which could mean he meant either (not necessarily both) or even intended "type" to mean roughly the same as "manufacturer".
In any case Kasz I really think you are defending a bad position just because you put yourself in it before you found out the facts. And please, tell us what the two types are, because as it stands now I'm not convinced it doesn't simply look different because of whatever the secret Service has done to it. I'm sure they went to town when they got one for keeps instead of just election season.
And even if they are the most different buses Prevost makes, Prevost still makes them both, which still exposes this entire brouhaha as completely ridiculous; it's been manufactured by a pathetic excuse for a news agency, desperate for hits.
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Nah, I just said that it wasn't the same type of bus, which it wasn't they look totally different. Had no idea if the company was the same or not. I was just skeptical because he said they were the same when the two buses dont' look alike. To compare with the picture above.
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Can't find a bigger profile but.
Obama bus is taller, and more "snub nosed" and seems to slope from the top down, where as the Bush Cheney bus, and even Obama's past campaign bus was down foward. No panneling on the top either. Heck even the setup on the roof is totally differnt. Of whatever those black things are.
Don't look anything alike if you ask me, at least not any more alike then any two busses of that size that could be made by anyone. Heck there is a lot different between them.
Besides, like I said, it SHOULD be a non issue, since I doubt Obama even picked out the bus himself. That it was likely the Secret Service who makes those choices.
