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Kasz216 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Kasz216 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Kasz216 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
 

well i think that about says it all, as somehow i agree with this.

Yeah, I wouldn't blame it on current overt racism so much as past racism and current structual problems due to racism.

i have to agree with that to. lets face it. the racsim faced today an't got noth'n on the early 1900's.


Yeah, it's kinda like if your running a race, and one guy is forced to stop for 10 minutes in the race.

Even if you've got equality from then on, the other guy is always going to be behind.

Which becomes an ethical quagmire in a larger economic framework, since you've got one group disadvantaged by past deeds, however by directly helping them you are hurting other unrelated groups. 

Afterall your typical billionaire doesn't care about a poor white guy anymore then he does a poor black guy, whehter that poor white guy was around during the worse eras or whether his faimily just imigrated here from romania.

wow! that was great. perfect analogy.

Thanks, I probably stole it from one of my teachers.  I had like 4 classes on race and gender inequality in college.

Though actually, a better analogy would of been rolling two snowballs down a snowy hill.  Since wealth tends to make it easier to aquire more wealth, which explains why even when things are tilted in the favor of groups behind through things like the united negro college fund and various quotas the wealth gap only seems to grow. lol true

Also why the wealth gap in general grows in this country, except in times a recession when it shrinks because the rich have more to lose.  Really no amount of income equality or even income inequality would fix the current situation, if anyting you'd need to find a way to simulate "wealth"... and again that brings up morality issues because you'd basically penalizing other snowballs because of the headstart a few of the big ones towards the bottom got. another great point

Which is generally why even Obama supports stopping racial inequality via lifting up the entire bottom.  Sadly, with income based methods, it's never going to work. yea sadly. reall change won't come until the youth replaces it and gets rid of the statous quo.

lol, i didn't have any classes on either in college, but it was a 2 yr so can't expect much.