Student Arrested for Plotting Gas Attack on Anti-Pope Crowd

[Joelcool7]

sapphi_snake said:

Joelcool7 said:

Man all the belly-aching Athiests on this forum are hilarious.

As I said earlier this event will bring in 1.5-million pilgrims who will spend over 100-million euro's every day for the four day visit. Thats insain and it will benefit Spain immensly. Its bigger then the Olympics for crying out loud. So the Government spends almost 100-million Euro's in security expenses and ensuring the visit goes alright, the tax payers and buisnesses will make four times that at least.

Think of it these tourists are spending likely more then 100 Euro's a day on hotel alone. Thats a shit load a day on hotel alone. Then throw in all the buisness resteraunts will get and souvenier shops and local buisnesses.

Other countries would kill for this kind of tourism. This is a shit load of money being pumped into Spains economy.

Those protesting are not doing so because they are upset Spain is spending a hundred million euro's to make four times that in return. They are protesting simply because they are biggotted towards the Catholic Church. The biggest protest according to the CBC was a big kissing protest done by the gay rights groups.

Athiests need to be logical in their protests. We all know the real reason they are protesting theirs no reason to go lying to everyone. We get it you hate Catholics and other religions. But don't let your blind hatred loose your country millions in tourist dollars.

The Spanish Government knows how important this trip is to their economy. Thats why they are doing it. Also the comparison of this trip to Spain paying for Muslims to visit Mecca. How could that possibly relate the the Government bringing in millions of euro's and helping foster tourism for years to come.

Now if millions of muslims would come to Spain and spend millions of euro's to hear their spiritual leader speak. Then yah that would be great. But the idea of sending Muslims to Mecca is just idiotic, it wouldn't benefit Spain at all. Where as this visit from the Pope will save people's job's create more jobs and pump hundreds of millions of euro's into the economy!

The protest is very logical. The Government is funding a religious event using taxpayer money. It's quite irrelevant what alleged benefits it brings to the economy. If they're going to endorse religious events for christians, they should endorse religious events for other faiths also. The only biggots here are catholics and their Church, who think that everyone should finance their religious events.

Oh, and there's no way this event brings in more money than the Olympics (LOL, what are you smoking?). The event costs $72 million, and is allegedly bringing in $100 million from pilgrims. The profits aren't that big compared to what is invested.

Umm from what I heard the costs that the Government is covering is largely security, like Police and ensuring safety. They would have done the same if 1.5 million muslims, Athiests or any other ethnic group were coming. Fact is 1.5 million people need extra police and security forces and measures to accomodate them.

Also your 100 million Euro's was according to the program I watched a daily figure. How could 1.5 million tourists spend only 100 million Euro's? In four days? As for bringing in more money then the olympics, I never said it would bring in more money. I said it was a bigger event and it is, the Vancouver Olympics did not bring in 1.5-million tourists. It is most definatly a bigger event. Though I guess I wasn't that clear but notice that I never said in that sentence anything about it bringing in more money. I was making a seperate statement in the wrong context.

Even if say the people only benefitted 50 or so million euro's thats still a massive amount of cash. These pilgrims if they have a good time will by word of mouth cause more people to visit. As I said it'll boost the tourist industry big time.

I notice you purposely mention 72 million dollars and then 100 million dollars in profit. Where as its really around 50 million euro's spent and 100 million Euro's brought in daily.

Also I under estimate the amount of money brought in. I only mention the four day visit from the Pope but the actual festival lasts six days. Meaning even more money will be spent. Theirs no way 1.5-million people are going to spend only 100 million Euro's, infact they will spend more then that each day if they are their.

The Government is doing a very smart thing for the economy and if it chose not to. Well then the country would be in chaos. What do you suggest, that the police don't bring in re-inforcements, no more paramedic's no extra security forces. No special road blocks and controls. FOr 1.5 million people flowing into a small space, you have no choice but to increase spending on security. It would be extremely irresponsable not to. Its a Governments responsability to protect its people.

The pope's visit is no different then any other international venue. Whether it be the Olympic's or a World Religious Conference or the G8 or anything else. You only care because its a religious organisation. But the Government should not discriminate against religious groups when they go to have events in their country.

Why should a huge secular event be supported by Government but when a religious organisation wants to hold an event it shouldn't be allowed?

It's clearly a biggotted attack by Athiest's, Gay rights activists and other non-Catholic's simply because they dislike the Catholic Church.

Also note I myself am not a Catholic, so don't even try and play the bias card. This is a huge economic boost and tourism boost that Spain could use. It would be stupid not to boost security and spend money on essential services when you have 1.5-million people coming. This is all common sense.