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MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Kasz216 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
SamuelRSmith said:
maximus22 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
 

yea check afew post back and you'll see theres some conflict with those numbers, and i'm talking about minorities as a whole not just one slice of the pie.

i'm also talking about the percentage in jail.


Thank you, I'm aware that the NFL is different from jail.  My point was that instead of looking at the percentage of minorities and shouting racism perhaps we should consider that there may be other factors involved... like talent for example.

And I know theres a conflict that's why I brought it up.


Indeed, like I said in an earlier post, highly-urbanized areas have higher crime rates all over the world, and the USA has a disproportiante number of minorities living in its inner-cities compared to the rest of the country, therefore, it makes sense if a disproportionate number of prisoners are minorities.

now this i can somewhat agree with.

Not to mention a number of them are poor... which also correlates with crime...

and more importantly recidivism.

Rich dude or Middle Class dude gets caught committing a crime... they generally stay straight after that.

Poor guy some feel they need to steal... and crime sentences are harder on repeat offenders.

I'd bet you though that Europes numbers don't look that differently.  They don't on unemployment based on race the last time I checked.

The big difference is that it's a hell of a lot harder to get those kind of numbers from Europe, like pulling teeth...

ESPIECALLY France where the average french official would tell you your a racist for wanting to see what the incarceration rates are related to a persons  race.

Though estimates by others like sociologists puts the Muslims at about 70% of all people in jail despite only being 12% of the population.

Now, Black people in the US I don't think is anywhere near that amount.  I think Black males are 35% of the prison population, and women prisoners are far rarer then men... so I don't even see it hitting 50% unless i'm wrong.  I wanna say African americans make up 12% of the population in the US.

well i think that about says it all, as somehow i agree with this.

Yeah, I wouldn't blame it on current overt racism so much as past racism and current structual problems due to racism.