badgenome said:
freebs2 said:
badgenome said:
amp316 said:
badgenome said: Helloween smokes them both. |
I like Helloween a lot, but let's just say that they are strongly influenced by Iron Maiden.
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Eh, I don't know... maybe during the Walls of Jericho/Keepers era that everyone seems to like best, but I really think their strongest influence is Priest (with some Scorpions thrown in). That may amount to six of one, half a dozen of the other, but Priest is what Kai Hansen cites as his influence and that's what they'd have grown up listening to. Maiden dropped their first album only three or four years before Walls came out.
Then again, I think Derisoween >>>>>>>>>>> Kiskeoween, so what do I know?
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True to a certain degree, the Helloween (and Gammaray after keepers), were influenced by Priest but not Scorpions, other equally important influences were 70s melodic hard rock bands like Rainbow and Huriah Heep also Deep Purple and Dio in a minor way. If you like Power Metal of the 90s I suggest you to listen to these bands.
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Yeah, I don't disagree. But really, you don't hear a Scorpions influence? "He's a Woman, She's a Man" has always sounded like a proto-Helloween song to me, and when they covered it for Metal Jukebox, it sounded like it was theirs all along.
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The fact you mantioned Kai Hansen has gathered my attention to him and their first albums, jukebox came out when he have already left the group. Yes, I'm not wanting to say that Helloween weren't into Scorpions after all they were the most popular german rock band for at least a decade, what I mean is at least first albums, their way of playing was mainly derivative from those other bands. Probably their more recent albums have more point of contact with Scorpions as you said. Another thing to consider is that bands like Rainbow and Deep Purple were so influent that also Scorpions were to a certain degree influenced by them. Awesome band by the way.