| badgenome said: Can we agree that nothing you've posted shows anyone actually calling for the end of social security? No business leader has called for the end of the program, and contrary to that conspiratorial bunch of shit at the second link very few Republicans have even made a serious attempt at tackling the kinds of serious reform that would be needed to make it sustainable. Even the biggest Tea Party types in office tend to hem and haw whenever you bring up entitlement reform because, yes, entitlements are extremely popular. But being extremely popular does not make them good programs. This past year social security reached the tipping point and now pays out more than it takes in. This wasn't expected to happen until 2016, but the government was yet again overly optimistic about how their own Ponzi schemes work. The Democrats may indeed be on sound political ground by screaming and hollering every time someone talks about even touching entitlements, but that isn't leadership. I strongly suspect anyone under 30 will be cursing their very names one day. |
Do you really believe you're going to get a business leader actually come out and say in public that Social Security has to end because they no longer wish to pay the payroll tax? Honest bet that if that happened, that leader would go down quicker than a $2 hooker. They prefer to let their money do the talking, and this is exactly the kind of crap that happens when you're able to donate undisclosed amounts to politicians. Australia doesn't allow that, so employers are more public about the situation of payroll tax.
Republicans are more crafty. They adopt a plan such as the Ryan plan, which slashes Social security to useless levels, and they stick behind it, despite the ongoing criticism by the public. Last I checked, a hell of a lot of Republicans supported the Ryan plan (ie. Dismantlement of Social Security phase 1).
I said it before and I'll say it again. The fund that the American people pay into is supposed to have enough surplus to remain afloat until 2037. That is provided no government looting has taen place, and if that's the case, then that's your government's dumb fault.
