Woe to the nations that mess with Israel

[justinian]

@Joelcool7
That's an interesting spiritual experience.
I started as christian, then became an atheist and now would be best described as agnostic.

I respect the path you took to your decison. You seeked, analysed and came to a conclusion. unlike many.
In many ways speculative science and religion are the same thing. We are told to believe what cannot be proven.
Science is also a religion in certain ways.

For example every scientist on the planet would tell you when pushed that many of what people take for facts are only scientific theory, from the big bang to some states of the universe. Yet many take these theories as gospel.

It is also interesting that the most outspoken atheist of them all Dawkins is not 100% sure there is no God...somewhere in the 90s percent sure.

The way I see it:
In the past "the church" told the masses what to believe about the state of things, we know better now.
Now the scientists tell us what to believe, but this is always changing and can be contradictory.

So when scientist speak of the past 10 billion years ago with such clarity and authority I am not convinced.

When they speak of stuff going on light years away in the universe I am not convinced.

When they can't come to a conclusion on global warming, (man-made or natural, threat or no threat) something that is actually going on in their time and on their planet I am not convinced....More worrying is that the scientists are now in the pockets of big businesses and government propaganda.

When people sprout religious prophecies and God I am not convinced.

I will keep searching for the answers that will hopefuly sastify me should my life be long enough on this planet.

As for Israel and it's enemies I remember some of this stuff from church.
So God promised that the Israelites will be persecuted all their lifes and those doing the persecuting will suffer. Those that do them good will be blessed.
It's how the believers define "suffer" and "blessed" that is not clear.
In centuries past in Europe the jews suffered whilst the nations that persecuted them grew and conquered the world.
Germany fell a in big way for their persecution and the USSR became a superpower for theirs.
Makes no sense.

End of lunch, back to work.