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fordy said:
Kasz216 said:

The Social Security trust fund is... and always has been filled with by government bonds... when there was more money being paid in then there was paid out... this money was ALWAYS spent by the government that year on something else.


(Italicised) You just proved my point there that government was raiding the social security surplus in order to fund other things. What right do they have to take that money?

Except you made it sound like this was so new trend under reagan.  Which was my point.  It wasn't.  Therefore there was never a real surplus.

As for why they should be able to do it?  Social Security is and always has been a "pay as you go" system.

The very fact that Fica taxes were used to pay other peoples social security instead of actually being  a savings program makes it so.  FICA taxes are no different from any other tax. 

The whole talk of surpluses have always been a myth because FICA has always been like every other single tax that's existed.