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fordy said:
Kasz216 said:

Saying social security has a surplus is like saying that I spend 100 dollars of my retirement fund write myself an IOU for 1 million dollars promise myself half a million, then claim i have a half a million surplus.


It's more along the lines of giving money to someone to hold, yet they cannot help but spend it on themselves. Since 1983, social security has been getting prepared for when the boomers go into retirement. So where'd it go? Used to find wars for oil or tax cuts for the wealthy perhaps? Either way, it's summed up by one word: Stealing.

that doesnt even make any sense.

thats one of the most misinformed non sensicle thing i have ever heard.

1) the tax cuts, which went to every american. is completely seperate from the SS fund, they arent even in the same pool, they could have cuts those taxes by 100% and SS wouldnt have been touched.

2) money from the supposed social security trust fund wouldnt/couldnt get deminished/spent by letting people keep their own money, that requires raiding it, like you said. it just make no sense what you said. money cant be spent from the fund, if they never had it in the first place.

like kaz said, there is no fund, they pay people with iou's they spend the money they do get on frivalous spending projects, non sustanable programs.