fordy said:
Kasz216 said:
thx1139 said:
People always believe we spend more on Welfare (Well there is no actual budget line item called Welfare) then we actually do. This is also the case with aid to foreign countries. In 2010 4.375M people in the US received "Temporary Assistance for Needy Families". The amount budgeted in 2010 was $17.5B. 2010 Spending on Defense was $850B. For an FYI Defense spending in 2000 was $359B and TANF spending was $15.5B. So in 10 years Defense Spending has more than doubled and even though this has been one of the worst 10 year periods in job creation and income growth TANF funding went up just about 13% and $500M of that is from the stimulus program which has come to an end.
Oh and at any given month there are about 2 million people receiving TANF in the US. That comes out to on average about $700 per month they receive.
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Uh... any reason your not counting Medicaid or Unemployment or any of the other welfare programs under Welfare? Or the Departman of Housing and Urban development... or plenty of other stuff.
Well other then the fact that it would add up to well over the Department of Defense.
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This is the same social security that people pay into their whole life, right? You don't think it's suspicious that the constant contributions from the American people, and it's still the largest on the graph?
Social security actually has a 2.6 Trillion dollar SURPLUS, but since your corrupt government has been putting their hand in, constantly pulling money from social security to fund other things, now they're complaining that they have to pay it back. I wouldn't call that a failure of the social security itself.
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A) I never mentioned social security... anywhere. I wasn't counting social security. Since you could argue it wasn't welfare so much as a forced awful pension system.
So i don't know wher you got "The same social security" from.
B) Also, not really. Social Security never had a surplus.
Social Security money was always spent right as it was gathered, money replaced by US Bonds.
Saying social security has a surplus is like saying that I spend 100 dollars of my retirement fund write myself an IOU for 1 million dollars promise myself half a million, then claim i have a half a million surplus.
Those bonds hold zero real value as can be seen by the fact that the government can change the requirements for receiving them whenever they want.