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Garnett said:
Let me review the Allied countries of WW2, and what they did..

America- Did nothing until 1941 when Japan bombed Pearl harbor, Fought Japan until 1945, Used the first nuclear bomb, Main reason for D-Day, Backbone behind the Allies.

Britain- First ones to declare war on Hitler in 39, Battle of Britain, Helped with the Japanese a little bit in the Pacific, Helped in the D-day landings.

Russia- Defeated the Germans, Broke the German army in half, Made the Japanese surrender.

Canada- Helped with the D-day landings, ???

Please fill me in if im missing anything.


Umm man Canada is the reason Britian didn't fall and was responsable for Liberating the Netherlands and a huge help in liberating Italy. Canada was one of the first world powers to declare war on Germany following Britian and France on September 10, 1939. They sent troops and ships and supplies immediatly to the front.

Fact is the Canadians were fighting from pretty much day one to keep the Brits and French alive. Once France fell and Britian was surrounded on all sides who kept Britian alive? Not the American's, the Canadian's sent naval ships and hundreds of thousands of troops, ships, aircraft to Britian to defend it. Also realize alot of the RAF was trained in Canada and the fighters were supplied largely from Canada. Ammunition, food and other supplies were brought in from Canada to keep Britian alive. Now granted the British Navy was nothing to laugh at without Canada's support Britian's supply line would have been cut.

So without Canada you'd have no RAF, no constant supplies? the German fleet would have surrounded Britian entirely. The Germans would have suffocated Britian with a siege. Then if Germany wanted they could invade or simply seige Britian into surrender. None of the other Commonwealth countries could have saved Britian without Canada.

Then hypothetically when the US finally joins in (If they would have at all), its to late. Now would the US have let Britian fall? I don't know but they sat on their asses well most of europe was taken they didn't seem to mind France falling.  Also I seem to remember the US didn't join the allies until Hitler declared war on America in 1941. Source , So America wasn't going to lift a finger to help Britian untill Germany decided it was going to war against them.

So yah without Canada Britian would have fallen probably in 1941 or earlier I mean it was Canada who supplied Britian and France and other allies with weapons, supplies and support for those three years prior to the US coming. Then once the Americans did join in it was still Canadian ships protecting the supply lines into Britian and Europe. The North Atlantic was Canada's territory. Then of course theirs the liberation of Italy which would have been pretty difficult without Canada's support not to mention the liberation of the Netherlands which Canada was almost soully responsable for. Then of course Dieppe and the planning of D-Day which Canada was instrumental to the landing on Juno beach. Then the paratroopers and air/naval support for the push into Europe.

So the key points

-Without Canada their wouldn't be an RAF (Royal Air Force) which was trained and equiped in Canada. The planes bullets and pilots all came from Canada.

-Without Canada their would be no naval support , the North Atlantic would have been lost

-Without Canada Britian wouldn't have had food or supplies being completely cut off would have been under seige and likely fall to Germany

-Without Canada - The Netherlands would have either remained occupied or another country would have to liberate them

-Without Canada - The US and Britian were caught in Italy and Canada bailed them out and did alot of the fighting to Liberate Italy. So Italy probably wouldn't have fallen.

-Without Canada the worlds fourth largest air force and third largest Navy would never have taken part in WWII.

-Without Canada the allies wouldn't have had Dieppe to tell them what to do in on D-Day, it was the Canadians that tested the plan on Dieppe and without those lessons D-Day could have failed.

-Without Canada Juno Beach wouldn't have been landed on, if Canada wasn't their another power would have to have stretched their forces even thinner.

-Without Canada the bombings of targets prior to D-Day and the landing of paratroopers behind enemy lines would have been hampered. The Fourth Largest Air force in the world wouldn't be their dropping bombs downing German fighters and landing paratroopers.

-Without Canada .... I could go on but you get my point.

Now could the war have been won without Canada? Yah I guess just as much as without any other ally. Canada was as important to the allies winning as was America. Canada fought the war and America showed up right in time to help finish it. Without Canada the war would have been lost before America even joined in.

Also my thread talked more about other conflicts as well as the Korean War or WWI or Afghanistan...etc...

In Afghanistan the Canadian Army which is puny compaired to the American's was one of four countries allowing their troops to be active in combat zones. Canada was responsable almost entirely for the defence and reconstruction of Kandahar Province. In the Korean War Canada was one of the major reasons it was won, now unlike WWII it wasn't like the war would have been lost without Canada but it was a huge factor in why it was.

 

Also for the guys who said they were offended because their grandfather or what ever fought in the war. Well my family did too I had great grand parents die in the war. My great Grandma worked in a factory building planes for the RAF. My Uncle was a medic in the Korean war (Mennonite, so he didn't fight).

Canada has been at America's side in every major war since WWII except pretty much Iraq. Yet they never get credit. Britian gets credit, france gets credit, Russia gets credit...etc...etc...

In the future it would be nice to see just a few more games or movies and such credit Canadian soldiers for what they have done for the world. I mean they gave their lives to save millions of people in multiple wars, they deserve to be remembered as heroes just as much as any American does or British or French or Russian. They all deserve to be creditted.



-JC7

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