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TRios_Zen said:
IseeLight said:
TRios_Zen said:
IseeLight said:
 

That's just troops and armorments it has nothing to do with the overall effectiveness of the military, the USA lost to vietnam, they had far more military strength and still lost badly, the USA has sucked in every major battle they have been in despite having the advantage, so again look at military history and educate yourself. And the whole USA fighting for freedom is such a joke, they didn't enter the world wars until years after they began and they invade thrid world countries and bomb things for no good reason most of the time too. They take heavy losses despite having a massive advantage in military strength and their military spending and sheer stupidity is the reason the world is on the verge of ecnomical collapse. People who dislike the USA dislike it for very good reason.

Your revisionist history is laughable, and I'm tempted to say that you are just posting flamebait material to get a rise out of people.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt though and say: the reasons behind any large scale conflict, by any sovereign nation, especially one ruled by a democratic government are convuluted and influenced by the socio-political climate of the time.  For example, at the begining of WWII, America was undergoing an isolationist period.  Her people in general did not want to involve themselves in wars outside her borders; yet FDR still worked within the confines of that feeling to provide supplies for her Allies at the onset of the War.  The bombing of Pearl Harbor simply motivated her people to support the war they had now been thrust upon and America basically went balls deep after that.

Whats funny about your post is that you decry America for NOT getting involved in WWII, then say she gets TOO involved "for no good reason" in later wars...who should make the decision to get involved then I wonder?  You??

HAHA, now that I think about it, and re-reading your statement I'm pretty sure you just have an anti-American agenda you want to push - how original!  Have fun with that.

You made a mistake, USA didn't provide the Allies with supplies, they sold them to the allies, and I'm not being hypocritical you aren't being specific, why did USA attack vietnam, or the other 3rd world countries lately? Why are american bombs blowing up stuff that's worth less then the bombs? USA didn't fight for freedom when people were fighting for freedom they stayed on the side-lines and when USA was at the head of a war they are attacking third world countries that they have very little if any buisness being involved with, and if you guys didn't want to be involved in wars outside your borders why are you attacking 3rd world countries? And what do you mean revistnist history? Do you believe USA won the vietnam war? Again educate yourself, I don't need an agenda to make the USA look bad, stating facts does that.

Sadly, you are very short in the fact department.   For example, I did not state that the US provided anything for free, you assumed that, so the mistake is your own.

Further, if you don't know why the US got involved in the Vietnam War, it is you who needs further education as that information is readily available (hint it had to do with American belief that a communist "red-tide" would occur if South Korea fell to the North). The METHODS of said war and what ultimately led to the US failure in achieving a strategic victory is more politcal then anything else.  This period of time is a low point in US history - I will not shy from that - but to generalize because of that, that the US Armed Forces are garbage, is pure ignorance.

Finally you ask why the US attacks third world countries: I can only assume you are talking about thier involvement in Afghanistan, Iraq (and recent operations in Pakistan).  I think their motives have been fairly clear - and were all initiated post the attack on the World Trade center.  You do not have to agree with those, however, I respect your right to your own opinion.  Your opinion however, is just that, a political difference of opinion, not fact.

Honestly, I feel like I'm giving a class here.  I'm educating you, not myself; I wonder, is it helping any?

I know exactly why america attacked vietnam, and I know it had nothing to do with freedom. I was not aware that politics enables the enemy steals your weapons and kills your troops with them, and again look at some battles in the world wars, you know about pearl harbor right? How effective was the USA's military then? As for the attack on the world trade center I have yet to see any proof anyone they are blowing up had anything to do with it, they had ulterior motives for doing what they did and they used the attack on the world trade center as an excuse, thats the kind of country the USA is, and not all of the 3rd countries they attacked were after the attack on world trade center either, so again educate yourself.