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sapphi_snake said:

@mantlepiecek:

This could have been solved by making education free for them. But they would still have to use their knowledge to move forward. As it should be.

Blacks still have to use their knowledge to finish their studies. Also, what part of 'they were discrminiated against regardless of their abilities' don't you get?

Which is pretty unnecessary. Also who draws the line for underrepresentation?

It's very necessary.And you'd think it's easy to see when a category of people is underrepresented.

Uh? Affirmative action only benefits them due to their skin color. So discrimination should be avoided but benefits are ok? That's weird.

Lets see. Blacks weren't given access to education in the past right? So according to your logic it must have been some kind of affirmative action for the whites. 100% quota for the white. What's to lose? More representation of the whites in the media etc etc.

Ummm, this here just proves you're not understanding what I'm saying, and further confirmes the futility of this conversation.

If Blacks are so discriminated against at social level....how did Barack Obama win the elections? Through affirmative action?

Obviously they're not as discriminated anymore. Plus, the Democrats could've probably had a rock as a candidate, and they still would've won.

I understood every thing you said. It seems the black are not "as discriminated anymore" yet the majority according to you will always put down the minority because they can't stand people different to them.

Blacks still have to use their knowledge to finish their studies. Also, what part of 'they were discrminiated against regardless of their abilities' don't you get?

Of course they do. Just not as much as the whites do. At least when you compare the ones that depend upon affirmative action.

They were discriminated regardless of their abilities? Just like how the whites are being discriminated right now. I get it, its ok if its discrimination against the white but extremely oppressive if its against the blacks. Or for better phrasal "If it has a purpose."