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I would actually be for that too. Unfortunately, most governments consider it too costly to teach all, so they generally say "well, let's just go with the one that is the most popular", which misses the point entirely.
| Joelcool7 said: As for the party name actually saying Christian in it, I don't think that it is right. In Canada we have the Conservative Party which was formed by the Christian Reform Party as well as other parties. We just decided that it was discriminatory and wrong to have a party that only represents one faith in a country with many faiths and cultures. So Conservative Party members are often Christian but we have Muslim, Sihk and even Athiest members and I still support the party whole heartedly. Also the American Republican Party often seen as Christian like wise is not. I think in a civilized state no faith or religion should be forced on anyone by their Government. I just believe that everyones rights to faith and religion be respected and protected by that Government. You may not understand my idealogies because your country doesn't appear to be much like mine. You base your critique of Christians and Conservatives based on the Conservative Christian's in your country. |
Actually, I base a lot of it from the christian movements in the US. The church here plays very little part in politics, but this issue is what I regard, the most desperate attempt I've seen to forcibly teach religion in schools without direct competition. the Liberal Party (it's a conservative party here) is in power at the state level. However, they Senate is hung, so all acts passed require approval by the few independents in there. One of them happens to be the Christian Democrats, who essentially blackmailed the Liberal Party, saying they will only vote for the Liberal Party proposal to slug the pay of public servants if they voted to remove ethics classes from schools, essentally leaving scripture with no competition. He even started to call ethics dangerous, stating they were the foundation tools of Nazism and Socialism. Generally, our politics are relatively partisan, but this is starting to remind me of the radical extremism I've been witnessing lately in US politics.
| Joelcool7 said: As for me believing Athiesm is a religion and faith based belief system. Your facts aren't anything new and they still don't discredit creationism. |
It's not meant to (well, in the majority Atheism at least). I just like to think of it as Atheists are ones who need the proof to be convinced. None of them know the true origins. I myself have cofortable theories how earth was created, how life was created, but that can only go back so far. The universe could have been the work of a higher power, or an accident possibly caused as an elastic reaction from a collapsing previous universe repeating itself. However, when evidence starts becoming clear, that's when I'll make my choice.
Maybe that makes me Agnostic, I don't know. I never thought about it.
| Joelcool7 said: As for me caring so much about a word. The word is based on religious values whether those be mine or Islamic or Jewish or what ever other beliefs system. The word is not just a word its something to be respected and treated well it holds alot of value to those who have religious beliefs. According to the Bible and Torah Marriage as a term is a bond between a man and wife solidified by God. Now even if the Government stopped recognizing marriage I would still want to get married. Why? Because it is a religious institution and a move made under God it holds alot of value to me. To you and many others it is simply a word but the cultural and religious ramifications of that word are very valuable to others. So yah to you its just a word but to me it means so much more, you couldn't possibly understand without being in my shoes or those of other believers in the Abrahamic or other faiths! |
So what if there's a religion that permits gay marriage? Would that suddenly make it permissable? What if a religion allowed polygamy, or incest, or bestiality? I mean, Im okay with what people worship themselves, but where does the line get drawn?
