mrstickball said:
For leaders, you have the following: Teddy Roosevelt (first significant expansion of government power since Lincoln, massive conservation efforts that allowed government to expand its reaches into parks, massively increased state spending during tenure as well, ect) - Republican Woodrow Wilson (got America into World War 1, created the Federal Reserve, expanded government greater than any other president before him) - Democrat Herbert Hoover (helped grow the depression into a disaster by signing Smoot-Hawley among other things. Tried to solve the depression by massive taxation and expansion of government services which had the inverse effect) - Republican Franklin Delano Roosevelt (the pinnacle of government expansion. CCC, attempted 2nd Bill of Rights, Social Security, New Deal, ect. Supposed savior of the Depression but actually caused a double-dip in 1937) Lyndon Baynes Johnson, aka LBJ (Vietnam War, Medicare, Medicaid, pretty much lost us Vietnam too due to micromanagement of war - cost tens of thousands of American lives due to Vietnam, and thanks to his expansion of Social Security, has continued to burden us with debt and poor pension choices many years later) - Democrat Jimmy Carter (stagflation, appeasement, energy crisis, Community Reinvestment Act founded under his administration and totally incompetent as a president) - Democrat George HW Bush (S&L scandal, raised taxes when he said he wouldn't, ect) - Republican George W. Bush (Patriot Act, Medicare Part D, Iraq/Afghanistan, TARP, NCLB, began the mess that Obama has accellerated) - Republican Barak Obama (Stimulus & Recovery Act, ObamaCare, continued massive expansion of government, Libyan Interference, ect) - Democrat
These are just the ones off the top of my head. There have been good ones from both parties - Harding, Cooledge, Truman, Eisenhower, Reagan, Clinton. Our mess is the fault of both parties. Both are sides of the same coin. Democrats created the welfare and entitlement state due to FDR and LBJ. Republicans have had a lot of expensive wars after Nixon attempted to finish LBJ's mess in Vietnam and have subtly allowed federal government to grow, despite lying to people as being the party of small government. To argue only one party causes all of the mess is just sheer idiocy. I would personally put the blame as 60% Dem, 40% Republican entirely due to Obama tipping the scales against the Dems in the past 3 years (up through Bush I would have put it at 50/50). Great presidents have been unseen as of late. I'd only ascribe Grover Cleveland (1888-1892 and 1896-1900) and Hardiong/Cooledge (1920-1928) as being great in my opinion.... With Clinton/Reagan being in the 2nd tier of good ones. |
ok thanks for the history lesson of things i didn't know and i'm personaly on the fence on the healthcare reform thing from Obama.
look i'm not a fan of either party. did you read my other post? they all did alot of bad that they thought was good while being currupt at the same time(still on the fence about Obama).
we both can agree that wether we vote or not we'er stuck with fools running the U.S who are only in it for them selves.
Obama ran on change but the problem is nobody in washington or the rich want change so we don't get it.
if you or any other person in this world has a solution to getting those fools out of office and get some people in there that will make wht has eluded us for the past billion yrs or so then i'd be the first to help.
i'm still admitedly bias against the republicans except Ron Paul who would be the only republican worth voting for if he gets the nomination.
long story short your post is on point while missing the things that arn't off the top off your head lol.
