Mafia Round 31 - Amnesiacs Unite

[theprof00]

Baalzamon said:

theprof00 said:
I think that trucks is the RB, and that Baal is the killer, considering that trucks RB'd Baal (theoretical killer) and Heph, leaving us with only one kill on nights 0 and 1.
And now Baal admits to targeting Heph on night 1.
Baal thinks we all targeted Heph night 1.

Trucks was the only one to come forward about targeting Heph even though it could've put him in the hotseat. This makes me think that he's the RB.
Now, I think Baal clearly believes that he thinks himself to be the killer, otherwise he wouldn't have lied. That would have been fine since we don't actually know our own roles, but, his move against me looks like scapegoating, which looks like he's solidified that he actually is the killer.

I also refer back to when he said, "I was too scared to lie on day 1" (paraphrasing maybe), this makes me think he got over that fear.

I also believe that my scenario up top (posted 2 days ago):
"1.
Baal-killer targets Heph (said he was too scared to lie [about night 1])
Prof-vanilla
Trucks- RB, blocks Baal
FF-doc protects Baal
Heph-killer, targets Trucks?

N1
Baal- killer, targets Heph
Prof- vanilla
Trucks- RBs Heph
FF- Docs Prof
Heph- ?

This is a possible solution

I've really got to go through the option but it will take a lot of time.."

is the reason Baal is so forthcoming with this new information. I believe I caught him in his lie and he's now fessing up.

1. Did I think I was the killer?  Absolutely.  Lots of people targeted me, as well as the person I targeted on night 0, so it was very possible that my kill could have simply been blocked or doctored.  On night 1, however, Trucks just up and admitted to targetting Heph, when I also targeted Heph.  There was absolutely no reason for me to get myself into shit, when I was starting to get really strong feelings that I was the mafia member.

But last night, Wonk was not my target.  As I mentioned before, I had a strong feeling yesterday that I was the mafia.  I targeted Trucks because due to my feeling I was the mafia, that would have made him be the roleblocker.  If I could kill the roleblocker, and somehow convince people not to lynch again today, then I would easily be able to weed out who the doctor is, and target him for night 3, thus winning.  If I target the townie or doctor, and then somehow convince the game to resume, it is very plausible that I get blocked the following night.

Trucks, however, did not die last night.  Wonk did.  My only option was to go through solution after solution after solution and find at least SOMETHING that could be plausible.  I HAD to find this solution.  I knew perfectly well if I couldn't find out what was actually going on, I would immediately be lynched, with the victory going to the mafia.  Everything I was finding was way too complicated, however.  It involved way too many lies that could not possibly be true.

My problem was I was continuing, over and over, to assume Heph was lying.  I went through a scenario where he wasn't lying, and you immediately became my suspect.  After me admitting to my lie about night 1, which as stated before, was done because I didn't want to get myself into shit when I believed I was mafia, the only lies necessary for this situation to be true are you on night 0, you on night 1, you on night 2.

It was the only solution I found that actually makes sense.

Not quite sure where Trucks has decided to go, but I'm still waiting on his opinion.

1. Except that you never once suspected trucks of being the killer. You never pointed a finger at him. If you suspected that either he or yourself were the killer, then scapegoating him was the most plausible scenario. No, you KNEW that you were the killer, because if you were a townie, then going after trucks was the townie thing to do. You were using Trucks, along with asking whoever else was lying so that you could make a fool-proof confirmation that you were the killer.

Later, you also say that you went with the most simplistic explanation, yet the most simlpistic, if you are the town targeting Heph, is that Trucks is the mafia. Instead, you made the scenario more complicated by saying that I (theprof) ALSO targeted Heph. When in fact, I already posted the most simplistic scenario above that includes lies from only you and Heph.

 

I wrote 1 because I thought there'd be something better to respond to, but including the fact that you've already lied to us, I see no reason to address your other points on their own merit alone.