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superchunk said:
@osamanobama

I love how the current Republicans are so much anti-Obama that they completely forgot everything that happened before Obama got into office.

We had a SURPLUS when Clinton left. A FUCKING SURPLUS. Then from 2001 to 2008 the Republicans did everything in their power to massively grow government and triple the national debt. Why the hell weren't they clamoring for cuts back then to increase our way to a debt free nation? Why the hell was the first thing they did was to lower revenue and kill any chance we had at ridding the nation of this debt?

first of all he had a surplus for one year, not when he left office. overall clinton added lots to our debt. he also didnt have any major wars going on. on to top it off we had the .com era, which turned out to be a bubble. learn your history.

A completely pointless war.

debatable, nearly everyone left irag had WMD including dems, clinton, etc. and guess what we freed their people while we were at it, getting rid of a terrorist government.
A massive reduction in our personal rights.

no argument here, but also nothing obama hasnt done or isnt doing.
A completely unnecessary and pointless tax cut that primarily helped the rich and the corporations.
actually it helped middle class the most. and it created  thousands of jobs, and spurred lots of economic growth, until the housing bubble.
Then when the economy collapsed due to many other conditions, Bush and the republicans started the windfall of payouts. They were already penned and ready to be cashed BEFORE Obama came into office. He only continued them as all the economists as well as people on both sides of the isle kept saying it was the right choice. Well, history hasn't said y or n on that one yet.

yep, a huge mistake here.

Now, all you guys scream is how its all Obama's fault. He was given the biggest shit position possible in the last, I am not even sure how many presidencies, yet its his fault?!

Bush had us drive off the road, obama took the wheel and slammed on the gas taking  us of a cliff

All I've seen since he came into office is a massive increase in Republican partisanship, extremism, and hatred. This last debt debacle proves this perfectly as Obama has continuously tried to be flexible and back of his original desires to make Republicans happy. Yet, even when they produced a one-sided argument it didn't pass their own extremist group.

what extremism and hatred, whats extreme about people fighting for a less intrusive goverment. how is the tea-party extreme. like a said they are the only reason people are even talking about the debt, without them debt ceiling would have come and gone being risen without any question. democrats and establishment republicans would have thought nothing of it. thank God tea party has brought some sanity to washington.

I'm agree we need some big cuts and reform. However, the reforms needed will never pass the rich-protecting Republicans. On top of that we must remove the idiotic cuts from 2000 to greatly increase our revenue.

greatly increase our revenue, dont make me laugh. tell me this has raising taxes ever created a job, do businesses say, hey if i have to pay more taxes spending more money, i think im more likely to hire someone now. even keynesian economics says not to raise taxes in a depression, an economic theory obama adheres to.

I don't see how you can claim it won't help, when it was giving us a surplus in 2000. Times have changed and republicans have massively grown the government. However, those increased revenues will also even that out.

yes both parties are to blame, but perhaps you forget that most of the debt aquired by bush was under a democratic congess led by nancy pelosi, creating more debt under her watch than ever before. but like i said, a significant portion of the republican party isnt your GOP of yesteryear, they are actually sticking to their fiscal principles, ron paul is largely responsible for starting that.

I bet you still think Obama was born in Kenya and a secret Muslim, huh?

wow, way to try to demonize any one who disagrees, with you. i have said nothing even hinting at that. and for the record i neer thought obama was born in Kenya, and no, i think he is mostly a-religious. heis mostly very secular, but shares some beliefs of christians, some of islam, and probably others to. its very clear he greatly values islamic believes, but no he is neither christian nor muslim. 

and the point of claiming this was what?


and none of this stuff pertains to the stuff i corrected you on about your previous post