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osamanobama said:
fordy said:
Viper1 said:
osamanobama said:
Viper1 said:
fordy said:

Your whole "equality" agenda bullshit is pure hypocrisy. So tell me, if you're for equality, why do you support people inheriting large sums of money and effectively having a leg-up against the rest? Not exactly equality, is it? Oh that's right, you're only for equality when it suits you.

Yes, Wall Street gave plenty to Obama and he's been the best conservative president in modern times. Funny how that works.

Correction, socialism is the equal distribution of all wealth. Capitalism stamps the poor down further in order to raise the value of the dollar. After all, there have to be classes that do the dirty work, right? You conservatives claim "everyone can be rich if they want to", but you realise what that ideology would lead to? Extreme inflation, and the dollar becoming worth less. Thereby, the wealthy like to keep their little collective group small in able to keep the value of their wealth high.

You are confusing Capitalism with Corporatism.  America hasn't been a Capitalist economy for a very long time.

thats it, out of of the crap he spewed, you only correct him on him mixing up corporitism with capitalism. surely you can do better than that, like address his laughable death tax agument, if you can call it that.

I consider it a bigger root issue.  Once you understand this concept, understanding the others becomes more clear. 

 

Fordy, do you not understand the absolute impossibility of an equal start in life?  Do you plan for every child to have the same parents with the same income?  That's a rather communist direction, wouldn't you say?  


Yes, I am aware of it. Even with an estate tax, the wealthy still have the upper hand throughout the life of the parent. I'm not saying 100% estate tax is the solution to fully solve it, but I believe it would make a hell of a difference.

If anything, ingenuity should be rewarded, not just the pure luck that you happened to be born into a better-off family.

oh my God, we are not a Communists country (yet). Government has no right to just confiscate private property just because someone dies. if some how your parents giving you their property is "unfair" then all charity should be outlawed, recepients didnt deserve it, or earn it. its clearly unfair. rich parents sending their child to a nice private school should be outlawed, the kid has an unfair advantage, why should he get to go to that school just becuase his parents can afford it. in fact parents doing anything for their children is unfair, that includes clothes, food, shelter, material possessions, its all unfair that a child may get great things because of the work of their parents, the kids didnt earn it, they did nothing for it. right? all infants must be sent out to the wild to fend for them selves, but not just any wild, it must be the same because some wild might be more tame than others, which would give the undeserving infants an unfair advantage

And how exactly was the wealth accumulated? Mostly from the back of the workers in order for them to live a work-free life. In other words, the wealthy are LEECHING off the workers.

If you're fit to work, you should work. Everyone needs to pull theirweight. It's rather unfair that workers have to work more in order for the wealthy to keep their luxurious lifestyle.