fordy said:
osamanobama said:
fordy said:
HappySqurriel said:
fordy said:
HappySqurriel said:
In what way does eliminating profits, socializing industry and providing extensive social programs fall in line with right-wing economic theory?
In fact, in what way do any fascist policies fall in line with right wing ideology?
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According to A history of Nazi Germany: 1919-1945. 2nd edition by Joseph Bendersky, Nazism was established on the accusation that both capitalism and communism were geared towards Jewish interests. Therefore, the Third Position was established with a Notionalist view in mind, the abolition of the Jews and the establishment of an Aryan master race. The economic views may have been more socialist, but the primary agenda of Fascism and Nazism was Nationalism interests, viewed as a far-right agenda.
"Nazism presented itself as politically syncretic, incorporating policies, tactics and philosophies from right- and left-wing ideologies, though a majority of scholars hold it to be a far right form of politics"
(cited in Fritzsche, Peter. 1998. Germans into Nazis. Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press; Eatwell, Roger, Fascism, A History, Viking/Penguin, 1996, pp. xvii-xxiv, 21, 26–31, 114–140, 352. Griffin, Roger. 2000. "Revolution from the Right: Fascism," chapter in David Parker (ed.) Revolutions and the Revolutionary Tradition in the West 1560-1991, Routledge, London.)
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So, while there economic policy is predominantly based in socialism, and their social policies of the day were based in social-Darwinism and eugenics which was dominant in the ideology of the extreme left of the day, because they demonstrated extreme nationalism they are extremely right wing?
Isn't this kind of like arguing that Iran is an extremely progressive nation because the government pays for sex changes? Ignore the murdering of homosexuals, and the complete lack of rights for women, they share one policy with the left therefore they're extremely left wing.
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Not at all. In fact, the right 's agenda is driven by classification of the people, whereas a left policiy works towards equality of the people. However, think about this: a far-right capitalist state gives power to the corporate entities, which in turn leads to monopolisation. Nazi Germany did have corporate socialisation, but they still had classification according to wealth too. Left policies deal with the abolition of all classes.
You even stated that they worked towards the establishment of a healthy MIDDLE CLASS. There were still ones with higher capital, some you probably heard of (Oskar Schindler?).
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not sure if the bolded is serious or not, but if so, in reality its the exact opposite. left is always catagorizing people, just look at universities. the black student center, womens center, gay/lesbian center, "insert name of 'minority'"center. then we have affirmative action, scholarship specifically targeting certian races or genders. title IX constantly pointing out how people are different. while typically the right wants every one to be treated equally, no special priveledges.
for the italicized, that corpratism not capitalism, something both parties have unfortunately been practicing from some years now
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Your argument fails on the basis that if those centres were abolished, you believe there would be equal treatment. However, wealth classification will always mean that ones growing up in a rich family will always have a leg-up. If you believe in equality, tell me, do you support a 100% death tax? (that is, all accumulated wealth in one's life can not be inherited).
This is the basis of capitalism. It's based on greed. Wealth can be obtained in two ways, by making more than others, or forcing others to make less. the American right-wing uses both of these methodsto ensure the wealthy stay wealthy and thus have the control.
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