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osamanobama on 01 August 2011
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thx1139 said:
Viper1 said:
THX, that is still anecdotal. An anecdote just means a personal story.

See, you have BCBS and pay $1,666 per month for your family's health insurance. But did you get to shop around for that insurance? Did you get to check competitors? Or were you forced to be stuck with that insurance?

When businesses like insurance are given monopolistic opportunities that are backed by the government combined with cost ballooning measures also because of government intervention, you get high costs.

Those 50 million without insurance can usually get government funded insurance with the same access to the same health care professionals and treatments (mostly) as your overly expensive corporate package.

Get it all out of the way and let the market find a balance. Like I've noted before. Look at Lasik surgery. It's getting cheaper and much more accurate. Same with ALL elective cosmetic surgeries and procedures. How do they manage to reduce costs and increase quality? Government isn't involved...nor are most insurance carriers.

The $20K is the combined employer, employee, and deductible all added up for the year.  As I mentioned before Insurance Companies do not like competition so they charge a premium if you want to offer plans from multiple companies. When I first started working in the 80's I worked at Amoco and they offered plans from like 10 companies. Now they offer like 2. 

You fooling yourself if you think that the 50 million can easily get government funded insurance.

Also hear is a study of marketshare of health insurance in the US. 21 of 50 states have 1 company controlling over 50% of the market.  Also note that state after state is dominated by 1 of just a few companies.  http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/06/pdf/health_competitiveness.pdf

well most people claim 46 million, not 50 million. but still that number is very misleading.

about 10-15 million of those are illegal immigrants or noncitizens.

that takes it down to 35 million. and about 18 million of those have house hold incomes of over $50,000, over half of those have incomes over $75,000. it certainly seems like its their choice to not have insurance, they could certainly afford it if they needed to, but they choose not to..

as for the bolded, that proves that we dont have a free market system, we cant buy over state lines