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HappySqurriel on 31 July 2011
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Stats87 said:
HappySqurriel said:
Stats87 said:
mrstickball said:
Mr Khan said:
Complete opposite of what should happen, of course. Single payer, complete annihilation of this whole "human health = profit" abomination we have going now

It's a service like education that is part of our package of human rights, and one that should therefore be provided centrally

And look at the amazing American system of non-profit governmental schools. You know, the ones that graduate 35% of students in some cities.

Just because you believe its a right and should be centralized does not mean that it will run efficiently in America. The education system is proof of it.

In Canada, our drop out rate is only 8.5% and our school system is predominantly made up of public schools.

Run entirely by the provinces, who primarily delegate all decisions to small regional educational boards ...

My mistake, I didn't realize at first that this was specifically about control at a federal level. Although, the federal government is not entirely disassociated in Canada either.

That said, the pitfalls of American public education cannot be simply pinned on federal involvement. There seems to be a pattern in the USA that the public option suffers when a private one is also available.

Actually, education is entirely within provincial jurisdiction; and the only involvement in education from the federal government is indirect financing through tansfer payment ... and even with how much better the Canadian education system is, we're still "failing" far too many students being that (depending on the study) around 15% to 20% of high-school graduates are functionally illiterate and (while not well studied) a similar or larger portion of highschool graduates are functionally innumerate.

Now, the federal government having some involvement in the educational system does not doom the system, but it is foolish to think that you can create a uniform system that can address the challenges of a small rural school and an inner city school.