Head to Head

[Reasonable]

Michael-5 said:

Reasonable said:

Michael-5 said:

kickazz113 said:

Michael-5 said:

 

I have my own preferences, that's all. I love Sony as a company. The PS3 is the best machine out there (built in chargers for the controllers, free online, decently reliable before the Slim model, no Kinect). Just when it comes to personal preference on games, I tend to like 360 exclusives over PS3's. This is why I bought a 360 before a PS3, and this is why my 360 is my primary console, and not my PS3 (look at my library).

However, the level of quality is close sometimes. Killzone and Halo(main series), GT and Forza, Lost Odyssey and Valkyria Chronicles, Gears and Uncharted, Alan Wake and Heavy Rain, etc. I'm not trying to put down any PS3 exclusive, I just prefer 360 ones, but I try to avoid claiming that "they are better." unless there is a clear cut distinction in quality (InFamous IS better then Crackdown).

 

I wish more people got the bolded part - and totally agree.  I happen to prefer PS3 exclusives this gen, for example I much preferUncharted as a TPS vs Gears, but I'd never claim Gears was rubbish or Uncharted was somehow "Better".   I just prefer it because I prefer Indiana Jones type vibe to ultra-violence Dudebro vibe.  Just like you (but in reverse) this is why I got a PS3 ahead of buying a 360.

I don't think you should feel the need to defend your own personal preferences, they should be respected by all posters.  As you say the issue is only when people get clouded and try and go on about quality titles sucking due to console preference or taste.

On Topic - I'm going to put in one last vote for VC.  I like ME franchise and really liked ME2, but ME I found to be a mass of weak gameplay that, in the excitement to praise a Western action RPG, most reviewers decided to ignore.  The combat (which was 90% of the game) was a joke next to similar TPS combat titles like Uncharted and Gears, the inventory and menus were awful to navigate and use, the morality scheme was no better than the maligned good/bad scheme in inFamous yet touted as something great, and the character models, while detailed and great in dialogue scenes were animated like stick figures and again in motion/combat were far behind the quality bar of Uncharted/Gears level character animations.  And let's not even talk about the side missions and driving sections.

In short, ME was a good story with average to weak gameplay that got way overpraised due to circumstance and timing while VC was solid throughout, from story to gameplay and I'd argue a better game as a result whether you like the genre or not.

People like to label... thanks for understanding

What makes things worse is I'm the type to stand up for my opinion. There are very few 360 supporters on this website, so when people critisize the games I love, without really giving a reason, I don't back down. I would stand up for PS3 and Wii games more often, but before I even get a chance to there are always twenty people doing it for me already. I should just learn to let people be, I can't stop ignorance. It's really annoying because the 360 and PS3 exclsusives are often very closly reviewed and both often above 9/10, yet people only seem to appreciate the games on their console, and critisize the competition so easily.

As for your vote, when you compare Mass Effect 1 to Uncharted, are you comparing it to Uncharted 1? I ask because I felt the third person shooting mechanics in Uncharted 1 were rather glitchy, and it was Uncharted 2 that really polished the gameplay. I do agree though that ME1 << ME2, and VC is an awesome game.

Yeah I'm comparing it to Uncharted 1.  The shooting and animation in Uncharted 2 was much better, but nonetheless the shooting/animation in Uncharted 1 remains way ahead of ME1.  TBH Uncharted 1 shooting and animation is ahead of ME2 as well.  The movement animations in ME 1 and 2 are very stiff and unconvicing compared to other, comparable TPS like Uncharted.  I wonder if its to allow for the focus on high detail on faces, etc. for the RPG conversations but whatever, it's pretty obvious.  The level design and the organic integration of cover is much better in Uncharted 1 as well.  I appreciate in ME1 its obvious Bioware were somewhat struggling to get to grips with Unreal Engine vs Naughty Dog using an engine they knew inside out and had full control over - but that was there choice and as a consumer I'll evaluate on results.  TBH Mass Effect would be better on an engine such as that underneath Uncharted (or Alan Wake) IMHO vs the very level orientated Unreal Engine, which forces lots of silly breaks in the action to load each relatively small section, but I guess that's another thread!

Anyway, enjoy the games you like is my motto.  I do like ME BTW, particularly ME2 technically felt better, Bioware obviously much more comfortable with Unreal by that stage, it's just I feel the series' flaws against better examples tend to be glossed over for some reason, particularly its combat and animations.