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Kasz216 on 24 July 2011
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vlad321 said:
Kasz216 said:

There are "almost no massacres stopped because someone had a gun" because guns are rare in general.  Usually when said perpetrator kills themselves its because they are confrotned with... a gun.

Aside from which, talk to stickball, he could provide you with some pretty large datapoints involving guns, gunlaws and guncrime.


That gun you mentioned being a police officer or some other, well trained, official. Not some random guy with a gun, probably beacuse the average untrained person shits their pants and runs the hell away, gun or no.


Or you know... because...  Concealed carriers are low, and mass spree killers are even lower and crimes are lower in areas with concealed carry laws.

There are plenty of cases of concealed carriers stopping crimes... both during the crime and preventitivly.

You may as well complain that citizens trained in CPR haven't saved any spree killers, therefore CPR training is worthless.


Todays news aside these things are EXTREMLY rare, and how many have even happened in conceal carry states in places where you can conceal a weapon?


The only one I can think of is the Jared Loughner case.  Where around a senator during an event, no doubt everyone was checked.... AND a person with a concealed carry liscense did come to help, however he had already been tackled by three people.  One I believe being a person who himself had a concealed carry liscense but didn't have the gun on him.